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  • #16
    Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    The position is so fraught with questions, I hesitate to draw conclusions from the move.
    It's about time for something to go right for the Packers, isn't it?

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    • #17
      I'd love to drink some of the Sherrod kool-aid too, but if they liked what they saw from him when he returned to the active roster last year, why didn't he see the field? Newhouse still came off the bench ahead of him when they had to shuffle the OL.
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      Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Guiness View Post
        I'd love to drink some of the Sherrod kool-aid too, but if they liked what they saw from him when he returned to the active roster last year, why didn't he see the field? Newhouse still came off the bench ahead of him when they had to shuffle the OL.
        One of the known elements about McCarthy's in season coaching is his tendency to stick to the plan until its obviously inoperative and needs to be changed.

        Newhouse had been a starter, he was the backup and he took the most reps at the position. So no matter how high they were on Sherrod, Newhouse would play until proven incapable.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
          One of the known elements about McCarthy's in season coaching is his tendency to stick to the plan until its obviously inoperative and needs to be changed.

          Newhouse had been a starter, he was the backup and he took the most reps at the position. So no matter how high they were on Sherrod, Newhouse would play until proven incapable.
          the problem with that theory is that newhouse was a complete disaster when he was on the field. he was a liability, he added nothing positive to the team

          anyone/thing would have been an improvement over the shit he laid on the field when he was in there

          if newhouse had been mediocre or even below average, then i could accept your idea, but he almost got a-rod/flynn/tolzien/wallace killed ever time he stepped on the field last year

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          • #20
            Sherry... sigh

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            • #21
              Originally posted by red View Post
              the problem with that theory is that newhouse was a complete disaster when he was on the field. he was a liability, he added nothing positive to the team

              anyone/thing would have been an improvement over the shit he laid on the field when he was in there

              if newhouse had been mediocre or even below average, then i could accept your idea, but he almost got a-rod/flynn/tolzien/wallace killed ever time he stepped on the field last year
              Jef Saturday lasted 12 games and it took the QB lobbying for that to change. Newhouse made it into only a handful of games last year and Sherrod had to come off PUP to get reps.
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #22
                I think they could sign Sherrod for 2 years for that amount RIGHT NOW if they offered it.

                Point is that even PB and myself, who are very high on Sherrod wouldn't have taken that 5th year option at this point.

                More surprising to me is that SF actually did exercise the 5th year option on Aldon Smith.
                The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                  I think they could sign Sherrod for 2 years for that amount RIGHT NOW if they offered it.

                  Point is that even PB and myself, who are very high on Sherrod wouldn't have taken that 5th year option at this point.

                  More surprising to me is that SF actually did exercise the 5th year option on Aldon Smith.
                  i agree

                  realistically, if he was healthy and played, 7.5 million for one year is a pretty hefty price for one year. maybe if the guy was on the verge of being a prowbowler, but anything less just isn't worth that kind of coin. imo

                  lets see if he can take the field this year and do anything, if he can, we can resign him for a whole hell of a lot less then 7.5 million per year

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by bobblehead View Post
                    I think they could sign Sherrod for 2 years for that amount RIGHT NOW if they offered it.

                    Point is that even PB and myself, who are very high on Sherrod wouldn't have taken that 5th year option at this point.

                    More surprising to me is that SF actually did exercise the 5th year option on Aldon Smith.
                    The explanation is a beaut too. The GM had a really serious conversation with Smith, one on one, and is convinced he wants to change. Looked him right in the eye and everything.
                    Last edited by pbmax; 05-04-2014, 08:23 AM.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                    • #25
                      It will be an interesting year for the offensive line - will either Sherrod or Bulaga actually work out? I can't imagine both doing so.

                      And will Tretter be an upgrade over Erectile Dysfunction-Smith?

                      Can the line stay healthy?
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                        It will be an interesting year for the offensive line - will either Sherrod or Bulaga actually work out? I can't imagine both doing so.

                        And will Tretter be an upgrade over Erectile Dysfunction-Smith?

                        Can the line stay healthy?
                        MM and company must like Tretter at center. If they didn't I doubt they would have let EDS walk.

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                        • #27
                          Sherrod starting at LT?

                          Originally posted by 3irty1
                          This is museum quality stupidity.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                            MM and company must like Tretter at center. If they didn't I doubt they would have let EDS walk.
                            Maybe they just didn't like EDS all that much after watching him for a whole year.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Patler View Post
                              Maybe they just didn't like EDS all that much after watching him for a whole year.
                              +1. Center is a pretty tough position to master as a rookie. Even more so when you don't play as a rookie. I'd be beyond surprised if Tretter dazzles us this year.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Just Jeff View Post
                                Originally posted by Patler View Post
                                Maybe they just didn't like EDS all that much after watching him for a whole year.
                                +1. Center is a pretty tough position to master as a rookie. Even more so when you don't play as a rookie. I'd be beyond surprised if Tretter dazzles us this year.
                                I was surprised when I looked back at EDS' performance statistically (per JSO). Apparently he was much worse than I thought he was. I started the following thread:

                                http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...ight=eds+sacks

                                which noted the following:

                                - He was responsible for 22 bad runs (per JSO). That was the most on the team. Bakhtiari was second with 15 1/2.

                                - EDS gave up 6 sacks, which was the most by a Packers' center during the period of 1991-2013. Frank Winters has the second most with 4 1/2 in 1994.

                                - While responsible for a lot of sacks for a center, he was deemed responsible for only 11 1/2 pressures.


                                Maybe Tretter doesn't have to be all that good to be better than EDS was last year?

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