Now here's a real shocker.....

[denverYooper]

well it doesn't mean they can't or won't re sign him after this year. it just means that aren't willing to hand him 7.5 million for next season based on what he's done so far, which is nothing

smart move, and really the only move

Winner winner chicken dinner.

File this one under "Well, duh"

[Pugger]

I was surprised when I looked back at EDS' performance statistically (per JSO). Apparently he was much worse than I thought he was. I started the following thread:

http://packerrats.com/showthread.php...ight=eds+sacks

which noted the following:

- He was responsible for 22 bad runs (per JSO). That was the most on the team. Bakhtiari was second with 15 1/2.

- EDS gave up 6 sacks, which was the most by a Packers' center during the period of 1991-2013. Frank Winters has the second most with 4 1/2 in 1994.

- While responsible for a lot of sacks for a center, he was deemed responsible for only 11 1/2 pressures.


Maybe Tretter doesn't have to be all that good to be better than EDS was last year?

This is what I'm thinking. And Tretter went to Cornell so he is no dummy.

[Just Jeff]

This is what I'm thinking. And Tretter went to Cornell so he is no dummy.

Yes but we are a playoff team. I think the bar should be set higher than, needing to be the tallest midget. At this point, we are left with a completely untested commodity or playing musican chairs on the Oline for the umteenth year.

[Zool]

Yes but we are a playoff team. I think the bar should be set higher than, needing to be the tallest midget. At this point, we are left with a completely untested commodity or playing musican chairs on the Oline for the umteenth year.

EDS was the tallest midget last year and got pushed around a lot. Maybe Tretter is good enough to solidify the interior of the line for the next 4-5 seasons, maybe he sucks. He won't be worse than Saturday. I get the feeling he's got some game.

[pbmax]

I would take the tallest midget this year because unlike EDS, this midget might grow into the role. EDS is a vet and isn't going to get much better.

[Patler]

Yes but we are a playoff team. I think the bar should be set higher than, needing to be the tallest midget. At this point, we are left with a completely untested commodity or playing musican chairs on the Oline for the umteenth year.

Wolf's O-lines seemed to have constant change as well. Seemed like there were a couple positions up for grabs every year with him. The only stable time was the few years under Sherman the GM (albeit thanks mostly to Wolf's drafting of those players).

[woodbuck27]

Thank God you don't run this team.

As a GM I'd use common sense. As a GM I'd shove ego to the side. I'd be honest with myself. In terms of a Derrick Sherrod that has to start with admitting a failure and extreme hope for a certain high draft prospect. That's certainly the case and Tackle Derek Sherrod .

It comes down to the bottom line of what is this prospect showing us besides another season of being simply a prospect. At what cost do you go on with Derek Sherrod and extend his extremely limited status Fritz?

Laying to the side all excuses and any injury status. OT Derek Sherrod has done what to justify his draft status?

I'll inform you of the fact of life and this prospect. He's contributed next to nothing Fritz. Next to nothing doesn't justify a huge $multi-million$ reward ! To allow such a move and support such is fool hardy.

Do know what he'll bring to the table this season? I sure don't and I want to see a whole lot more from him before awarding Derek Sherrod so handsomely.

2014 is one more huge season and it's a lot more from OLman Derek Sherrod or as a GM I'd certainly be cutting bait and Tackle Derek Sherrod.

[bobblehead]

The explanation is a beaut too. The GM had a really serious conversation with Smith, one on one, and is convinced he wants to change. Looked him right in the eye and everything.

Mad...don't ban me bro, but a political reference is in order here: I looked Putin in the eyes...he is a good man.

[bobblehead]

It will be an interesting year for the offensive line - will either Sherrod or Bulaga actually work out? I can't imagine both doing so.

And will Tretter be an upgrade over Erectile Dysfunction-Smith?

Can the line stay healthy?

EDS is not a stand up guy. I am not sad it...er he is gone.

[bobblehead]

I would take the tallest midget this year because unlike EDS, this midget might grow into the role. EDS is a vet and isn't going to get much better.

Agreed, EDS peaked early, and it was a low peak...this is too easy.

[pbmax]

As a GM I'd use common sense. As a GM I'd shove ego to the side. I'd be honest with myself. In terms of a Derrick Sherrod that has to start with admitting a failure and extreme hope for a certain high draft prospect. That's certainly the case and Tackle Derek Sherrod .

It comes down to the bottom line of what is this prospect showing us besides another season of being simply a prospect. At what cost do you go on with Derek Sherrod and extend his extremely limited status Fritz?

Laying to the side all excuses and any injury status. OT Derek Sherrod has done what to justify his draft status?

I'll inform you of the fact of life and this prospect. He's contributed next to nothing Fritz. Next to nothing doesn't justify a huge $multi-million$ reward ! To allow such a move and support such is fool hardy.

Do know what he'll bring to the table this season? I sure don't and I want to see a whole lot more from him before awarding Derek Sherrod so handsomely.

2014 is one more huge season and it's a lot more from OLman Derek Sherrod or as a GM I'd certainly be cutting bait and Tackle Derek Sherrod.

I think you and Fritz are agreeing. Your first post (about cutting bait) seemed like it might indicate you preferred to dump him now. I think Fritz thought that was a year premature, since he is in the last year of a reasonable contract for a possible starter.

Your post above indicates you didn't want to cut bait now, but evaluate after this season without another year tacked onto his deal.

Hence, you two are in agreement.

[woodbuck27]

I think you and Fritz are agreeing. Your first post (about cutting bait) seemed like it might indicate you preferred to dump him now. I think Fritz thought that was a year premature, since he is in the last year of a reasonable contract for a possible starter.

Your post above indicates you didn't want to cut bait now, but evaluate after this season without another year tacked onto his deal.

Hence, you two are in agreement.

The report informs me that Derek Sherrod has to get something done this season in terms of service to the team or he's in certain jeopardy of being let go.

Put another way:

The report tells me that the Packers are getting set to cut bait and Derrick Sherrod if he's unproductive for another season.

[Guiness]

The report informs me that Derek Sherrod has to get something done this season in terms of service to the team or he's in certain jeopardy of being let go.

Put another way:

The report tells me that the Packers are getting set to cut bait and Derrick Sherrod if he's unproductive for another season.

I'm not so sure he's got the season to prove himself. I would expect he does not get a pass through TC.

[Fritz]

Well, for sure he's got to stay healthy. But to make the team, I think he merely needs to stay healthy and prove he's better than Marshmellow Newhouse was as a backup at both LT and RT.

But I am in that minority that thinks, if this dude stays healthy, he's the real deal. He can start at LT for this team and they can move Bahkteria to the right.

Bulaga's the one who'll get hurt again, methinks.

[pbmax]

The report informs me that Derek Sherrod has to get something done this season in terms of service to the team or he's in certain jeopardy of being let go.

Put another way:

The report tells me that the Packers are getting set to cut bait and Derrick Sherrod if he's unproductive for another season.

So in other words your comment is that a draft pick who cannot play or land a significant role within four years is going to be let go at the end of his contract?

How is that news?