TWO TRADE PARTNERS

[red]

Which Hairdo, Mel? Mel knows less about football than Florio. If it wasn't for the draft, my dog would be a better source of knowledge.

thats all mel does is draft stuff, you don't hear from him the other 11 months out of the year

you'd think he'd be better or more knowledgeable then he is at his one area of expertise, but he's not, he's one of the worst

[pbmax]

thats all mel does is draft stuff, you don't here from him the other 11 months out of the year

you'd think he'd be better or more knowledgeable then he is at his one area of expertise, but he's not, he's one of the worst

He actually had, or might still have, a Saturday radio show on ESPN's National broadcast. He would not just do NFL Draft 365, he would opine on other stuff. I listened for a while but the train wreck became less interesting by day.

[mraynrand]

He actually had, or might still have, a Saturday radio show on ESPN's National broadcast. He would not just do NFL Draft 365, he would opine on other stuff. I listened for a while but the train wreck became less interesting by day.

Still, nothing is worse that Pete Rose. Pete: "OK, tonight let's talk Olympics! Ya like 'em? Or not? Let me know..... Caller, you're on the air:" No. "Next caller:" Yes. "Ok, we're gonna break for commercial, but when we get back - hit with your all time favorite color for a uniform. I kinda like the color red...."

[KYPack]

this is what i was talking about. trade value points or not, the seahawks did better then we did last year

we traded pick number #55 to the 49ers for pick #61 (second round) and pick 173 (6th round)

seattle then traded #56 to the ravens for #62 (second round), 165 (5th round), AND #199 sixth round

points or no point, seattle did a better job then TT did and got another pick out of the deal

Hold up, Red

Seattle had a dog shit draft and TT aced out the PHawks in the 2013 draft.

TT did get the 61st pick. He then draft the OROY Eddie Lacy. He then packaged that 173th pick and flipped it to Denver for a 4, he used that to pick Johnathan Franklin.

Seattle picked a RB with the next pick from the trade you mention, Christine (Name change needed here) Micheal.

Seattle then packaged the 165 and 199 to Detroit for the 137th pick (a 5th) and selected DT Jesses Williams from Alabama.

After all the dust settles, we got Eddy and Franklin, the Hawks got A boy named Christine & a big tackle from bama.

Serious advantage our boy Ted.

It isn't the point values or the number of the picks you get, it's the guys you net from the deals.

[red]

they got more picks, ted could have and should have gotten more picks out of his initial deal, and the proof is that the very next team on the board did get more. who knows what TT could have done with that extra pick

but that trade. us vs seattle. seattle won the trading game, and made TT looka bit foolish at the moment

the picking game we might have won. but on that trade TT lost out

[KYPack]

they got more picks, ted could have and should have gotten more picks out of his initial deal, and the proof is that the very next team on the board did get more. who knows what TT could have done with that extra pick

but that trade. us vs seattle. seattle won the trading game, and made TT looka bit foolish at the moment

the picking game we might have won. but on that trade TT lost out

You are kiddin', I think.

Thompson was flipping picks and wanted a RB.

So did Seattle.

TT got ahead of Seattle and grabbed Eddy lacy. The Hawks got RB Christine Michael. So TT looks foolish? When, How?

Both Seattle and GB then packaged their lower picks for 1 pick in a higher round.

Seattle got a 5th round selection, DT Jesse Williams from Bama.

TT got a 4th with his trade package and snagged RB Franklin from UCLA.

Game, set, match TT

[red]

i don't give a fuck who TT wanted or drafted

we traded down, the very next team then traded down got almost the exact same second round pick, a second pick that was 8 spots better then the second pick we got, then an extra pick

are you saying that TT didn't want that higher second pick or that extra 6th rounder because he liked lacy?

that makes no sense at all.

seattle came in right after we traded, and got a much better deal. its like buying a new car. we talked the guy into selling us a 30,000 dollar car for 25,000 without some of the options. we think we've done well. then the next guy walks up, buys the same car with all the options for 26,000

in what world did the first guy get the better deal? you saying that TT made out better because he drafted better guys is like saying car buyer #1 got the better deal because he drives slower and more cautiously, therefore the car last longer then guy #2's car. the bottom line is #2(seattle) got the better deal and if guy #1 (TT) had tried a bit harder or had not been so desperate to trade down all the time, he could have gotten the better deal

do you think it was seattles plan when they made the trade to then draft busts? do you think it was TT's thinking that since he didn't get that extra pick that he better try extra hard and get a special player with his picks?

[red]

You are kiddin', I think.

Thompson was flipping picks and wanted a RB.

So did Seattle.

TT got ahead of Seattle and grabbed Eddy lacy. The Hawks got RB Christine Michael. So TT looks foolish? When, How?

Both Seattle and GB then packaged their lower picks for 1 pick in a higher round.

Seattle got a 5th round selection, DT Jesse Williams from Bama.

TT got a 4th with his trade package and snagged RB Franklin from UCLA.

Game, set, match TT

and no. TT got a 2nd and a 6th not a 4th. he then had to package that 6th with others to move back up

TT gave up a second (55) he got a second (61) and a 6th
seattle gave up a second (56) got a second (62) plus a fifth AND a 6th

how the hell does that equal a TT win, just looking at that and not looking at what either team did with the picks?

[pbmax]

Trading picks never involves a precise value. Depending on where he wanted to be, there may have been no takers for a better deal. You don't want him in a worse spot, or no trade at all, just to beef up the compensation.

[Guiness]

You are kiddin', I think.

Thompson was flipping picks and wanted a RB.

So did Seattle.

TT got ahead of Seattle and grabbed Eddy lacy. The Hawks got RB Christine Michael. So TT looks foolish? When, How?

Both Seattle and GB then packaged their lower picks for 1 pick in a higher round.

Seattle got a 5th round selection, DT Jesse Williams from Bama.

TT got a 4th with his trade package and snagged RB Franklin from UCLA.

Game, set, match TT

Very interesting analysis of what went down. The timing of it all is important - both teams traded down, who moved down first? Did TT, maybe knowing the Hawks were looking at RBs, make sure to remain ahead of them? That would be brilliant, and also explain why he got less of a haul - he needed to limit the teams he was willing to trade with.

For the record, when it all happened I was also pissed that he got, on paper, so much less.

[Bretsky]

ONE MORE IDEA; CLEVELAND DOES NOT DRAFT A QB; THEY KNOW OTHER TEAMS WANT TO JUMP BY THEM

TED TRADES OUR 21 for CLEVELAND'S 26 and a 4th