The So Early It's Both Awesome & Stupid Thread- Pick the 53

[pbmax]

I think they need to find room for Elliot somewhere even if its going to cost them talent in the D backfield or the depth of mediocre's on the D line.

[pbmax]

It may be inconsequential by then but see what you think after watching the game. Dorsey showed a seeming inability to go up and get at least one ball that appeared pretty catchable. Add in his inconsistencies and you may reconsider. Maybe not though. When plays are there you gotta make em and despite his physical tools, I just don't see much playmaking ability in Dorsey. I certainly think you know what you see though and may still think otherwise...

No doubt he has more potential, but White seems much more likely to contribute this year.

[Patler]

I agree, but roster spots are valuable - it comes down to whether they think his upside is worth burning a roster spot for.

Sure, but GB has done it frequently. Giacomini, McDonald, Newhouse all made the rosters their first years without any intention that they play, and I don't think they were ever active their first years. The last couple roster spots become meaningful only when injuries mount and the inactive list is filled with those physically unable to play. Of course, for the Packers that could be in week #1.

[Fritz]

Sure, but GB has done it frequently. Giacomini, McDonald, Newhouse all made the rosters their first years without any intention that they play, and I don't think they were ever active their first years. The last couple roster spots become meaningful only when injuries mount and the inactive list is filled with those physically unable to play. Of course, for the Packers that could be in week #1.

This is it. IF the injuries don't mount, you'll have healthy scratches. Elliot is that guy.

Last night's injuries may have made some decisions easier.

[HarveyWallbangers]

It may be inconsequential by then but see what you think after watching the game. Dorsey showed a seeming inability to go up and get at least one ball that appeared pretty catchable. There was at least one other opportunity as well that he failed to capitalize on. Add in his inconsistencies and you may reconsider. Maybe not though. When plays are there you gotta make em and despite his physical tools, I just don't see much playmaking ability in Dorsey. I certainly think you know what you see though and may still think otherwise...

I think both guys have missed on several opportunities--which is why I have neither making the team. In the first three games White had a couple of drops and missed out on other opportunities to go get the ball. I think they'll try to get both guys on the practice squad. Dorsey is pretty smooth running his routes, and I think he may have the ability down the line to play outside and in the slot. Dorsey is raw. He didn't get a lot of opportunities to catch the ball in college, but there is something about him that makes me think he has a future in the NFL. He needs to improve his ball skills. White needs to improve his ability to beat press and his ball skills.

[Fritz]

I'm with Harvey. Neither Dorsey nor White impresses me enough to warrant a spot on the 53. You've got to have at least one of the special-teams demons on the team, so to me that means both Dorsey and White go, and at least one of Taylor or Banjo stays.

Keep one backup QB. Fuggit.

I'm not a Bradford fan, myself. I don't mind keeping raw guys around to develop, but to me this guy hasn't even shown flashes.

[Zool]

Disclaimer, haven't watched last night's game.

Dorsey and White to me don't look like anything special. They can be replaced again next year by a late round pick or UDFA pickup. Nothing in their game jumps out as anything more than ordinary. If Banjo is better on ST, I'd keep him over them. Every team has 1 or 2 WRs who are just barely good enough to stick in the right situation and would be available in dire emergencies.

[Pugger]

Elliot's sack last night was against KCs starting right tackle, as I believe was the holding penalty on the previous play, and a blatant hold on the first KC drive that wasn't called.

Elliot has earned the spot and no way would he clear waivers.

(Although he is raw--there were several plays where he took himself out, overran the run, etc. But even just as a situational pass rushers he has great potential)

Yes, no matter how green guys with the propensity to rush the passer are coveted so I doubt he'll be cut.

[jdrats]

Not that I'm the cheerleader for Elliot or anything, but I just think there is no way he doesn't make the roster. How deep is GB at OLB anyway? Certainly not as deep as it sometimes appears. Clay has missed time each of the last couple years, and Perry too. Suddenly Elliot could find himself at #3 on the chart. I'd rather not have the injuries of course, but if it came to it, I wouldn't mind seeing a fresh Elliot lining up on third-and-long late in the game against the Bears and let him rip.

And I heard lots of rumbles this off season about Perry. He may have a chance at the number 4 spot by seasons end anyway. Again, at least as a pass rusher.

I think Stoneburner played his way onto the roster last night too. I still can't see it, but the folks picking Quarless as the surprise cut might be right. I just don't know how you cut your only tight end with significant game experience.

[Fritz]

You sure about Elliot??

He may have 5 sacks this preseason, but what I saw last night was what I saw when I looked him up on youtube - a guy who doesn't use his hands at all. He may have the speed and athletic ability to get the corner against scrubs, but against starting calibur NFL linemen - he's going nowhere.

He might as well be a double arm amputee for as much as he uses his hands... If a guy can't keep seperation from a blocker by locking out, he can't set the edge; and if he can't hand fight his pass rush is dead; it's why pass rushers with short arms are at a distinct disadvantage against long-armed OT's.

They may very well keep him on the roster - b/c he does have ability, and maybe they figure they can coach him up, but until he figures out how to use his hands, he has no chance of succeeding in the NFL.

But how could he sack anyone that way?

[Harlan Huckleby]

Miles White got in games last year and looked pretty good - quick, athletic. He was just too skinny. Well, he obviously went through a steroid regimen in the off-season, is much thicker. I think he deserves a shot based on last year.

[pbmax]

Aaron Adams gone for the season. Tore both ACL and MCL.

http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-packers/post/_/id/12578/adams-tears-acl-packers-may-add-ol-help

[Packman_26]

Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
Lacy, Starks, Harris, Kuhn
Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Janis
Rodgers, Bostick, Quarless, Taylor
Bakhtiari, Lang, Tretter, Sitton, Bulaga, Linsley, Sherrod, Taylor
Daniels, Jones, Boyd, Pennel, Guion
Peppers, Matthews, Neal, Perry, Elliott, Mulumba
Hawk, Jones, Lattimore, Barrington, Bradford
Williams, Shields, Hayward, House, Bush
Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson, Banjo
Crosby, Masthay, Goode

Practice Squad would include: Robinson, Rolle, Hubbard, Palmer, Stoneburner, Perkins, Goodson, Gerhart, Vujnovich, Dorsey

I'm guessing Thornton is on PUP or IR. If he's not it makes it really tough. I can't see them giving up on Bradford but I don't know where the spot comes from for Thornton. If I had to pick someone it would be Banjo since they are deep at safety and with the rule change Banjo could make it to the practice squad. I like him but there probably isn't a huge market for him. He'd likely be signed from the PS at some point during the year.

[Packman_26]

Rodgers, Flynn, Tolzien
Lacy, Starks, Harris, Kuhn
Nelson, Cobb, Boykin, Adams, Janis
Rodgers, Bostick, Quarless, Taylor
Bakhtiari, Lang, Tretter, Sitton, Bulaga, Linsley, Sherrod, Taylor
Daniels, Jones, Boyd, Pennel, Guion
Peppers, Matthews, Neal, Perry, Elliott, Mulumba
Hawk, Jones, Lattimore, Barrington, Bradford
Williams, Shields, Hayward, House, Bush
Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Hyde, Richardson, Banjo
Crosby, Masthay, Goode

Practice Squad would include: Robinson, Rolle, Hubbard, Palmer, Stoneburner, Perkins, Goodson, Gerhart, Vujnovich, Dorsey

I'm guessing Thornton is on PUP or IR. If he's not it makes it really tough. I can't see them giving up on Bradford but I don't know where the spot comes from for Thornton. If I had to pick someone it would be Banjo since they are deep at safety and with the rule change Banjo could make it to the practice squad. I like him but there probably isn't a huge market for him. He'd likely be signed from the PS at some point during the year.

I believe that's 52 of 53 boys! Damn Banjo/Goodson got me. (But I will accept a penalty for screwing up the PUP rules. Embarrassing.)

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't really care about Mulumba vs. Banjo. It's whomever the brass thinks is better on teams, but I think Goodson over Rolle is a mistake. Other than that, the cuts aren't all that earth shattering.