Packers Draft Grades

[pbmax]

We can look back at drafts with hindsight...

2005, 11 picks - 8 crap, 3 players (Rodgers, Collins, and Poppinga)
2006, 12 picks - 8 crap, 4 players (Hawk, Jennings, Colledge, Jolly)
2007, 11 picks - 7 crap, 2 players (James Jones and Bishop); the other 2 players were Brandon Jackson (sort of player, but certainly not worth a 2nd round pick; and Crosby.
2008, 9 picks - 4 crap, 4 players (Nelson, Finley, Sitton, and Flynn); the other decent player was Giacomini - who we decided to kick to the curb.
2009, 8 picks - 4 crap, 4 players (Raji, Matthews, Lang, and Brad Jones)
2010, 7 picks - 0 crap, 7 players (Pretty good draft - everyone contributed to some extent)
2011, 10 picks - 8 crap, 2 players (Randall Cobb, Devon House); Sherrod is still with the team - but will likely never contribute. Terrible draft.
2012, 8 picks - 4 crap, jury still out on everyone else

Last year looked like a pretty good draft. This year ???

From 2005 to 2012, that is 76 draft picks - 43 of them hamburger flippers.

Its a wonder they can win any games at all. I mean its not like we lack any other teams to compare these numbers to ....

And by the way, Ted's drafts with the worst grades have all been his drafts of BPA that ignored need. The closer you hew to the public perception of what you need, the better your grade. Regardless of intent, it looks like you agree with the pundits.

[wist43]

Its a wonder they can win any games at all. I mean its not like we lack any other teams to compare these numbers to ....

And by the way, Ted's drafts with the worst grades have all been his drafts of BPA that ignored need. The closer you hew to the public perception of what you need, the better your grade. Regardless of intent, it looks like you agree with the pundits.

I don't know what your point is... my point would be that Ted is about as effective as other GM's.

Rodgers masks a lot, and before him, Favre did; and MM is a very good HC - which TT gets credit for. TT has signed some UFA that have proven to be as good or better than any of his draft picks, sans Rodgers - Williams and Shields. In other very effective moves, Woodson and Pickett were well worth the FA $$ TT gave them.

Add it all up, we snuck off with 1 Lombardi Trophy, are competetive year in and year out b/c of Rodgers, good coaching (on offense anyway), and a pretty good core of players that TT has made sure to lock up with contracts. He's a pretty good GM - not a great one, but a pretty good one.

[Pugger]

I guess I'd give it a B out of the gate. Clinton-Dix and Adams are okay; I like Rodgers and Abbrederis.

Unless Bradford unseats one of our ILB's, which I doubt - then we did nothing to improve our dismal ILB play; Thorton was a wasted pick, even though he's a decent player...

One thing is for sure, TT drafted for need - we'll see how it works out.

If Ted drafted for need did we really need 3 more WRs?

[mraynrand]

Who has been better than TT during his tenure with GM? 2006-2013; which GM in football has had more success? 6 playoff appearances, 2 NFC championship games, 1 Super Bowl victory. Colbert, Belicheat and Newsome at most.

[Pugger]

That's almost 50% hit rate, which in the NFL is at least solid. The first round could be better, that's for sure.

I don't like to see too much draft praise now. Prefer to see it in the class' third year.

My grades (Bell curve):

Vikes A-
Pack B-
Bears C
Lions D-

Of course it is a tad early to declare Sherrod, Perry and D. Jones busts.

[Pugger]

Who has been better than TT during his tenure with GM? 2006-2013; which GM in football has had more success? 6 playoff appearances, 2 NFC championship games, 1 Super Bowl victory. Colbert, Belicheat and Newsome at most.

[mraynrand]

2011, 10 picks - 8 crap, 2 players (Randall Cobb, Devon House); Sherrod is still with the team - but will likely never contribute. Terrible draft.

You write the stupidest stuff sometimes. 3-4 of the round 1-4 picks are still with the team. House and Sherrod are still unknowns. Smith Williams and Taylor all contributed. Injuries were a factor for three leaving the team.

You like to make blanket statements (e.g. "Capers plays 2-4 all the time") over and over and over and think that makes an argument and constitutes proof of your position.

TT is about well above 50% success in rounds 1-4; historically the NFL has about a 38% success rate in rounds 1-4 (players with significant starts).

Your story has become tiresome.

[wist43]

If Ted drafted for need did we really need 3 more WRs?

Yeah, we did need WR's - in the last couple of years we've lost Jennings and Jones.

Before the draft, we only had 2 reliable receivers - Cobb and Nelson, and both of them are FA after this year. Boykin is unproven... yeah, we needed WR's.

We needed WR's, a Safety, a Center, TE, and ILB... kind of killed for need there I'd say

[Cheesehead Craig]

I think that given this was stated as a deep draft, it was very easy to pick for need as quality players were there for the taking.

[wist43]

You write the stupidest stuff sometimes. 3-4 of the round 1-4 picks are still with the team. House and Sherrod are still unknowns. Smith Williams and Taylor all contributed. Injuries were a factor for three leaving the team.

You like to make blanket statements (e.g. "Capers plays 2-4 all the time") over and over and over and think that makes an argument and constitutes proof of your position.

TT is about well above 50% success in rounds 1-4; historically the NFL has about a 38% success rate in rounds 1-4 (players with significant starts).

Your story has become tiresome.

You're a homer's homer ayn... do you remember that someone actually posted a study that showed that dunderdummy played the 2-4 62% of the snaps in 2011?? lol... no other team was even close. It's simply a fact.

If you want to count Smith and Williams as "players"?? Be my guest

You may be comfortable with fielding one of the worst defenses in the league - but I'm not.

[wist43]

I think that given this was stated as a deep draft, it was very easy to pick for need as quality players were there for the taking.

I like players well enough... Thorton and Bradford are curious picks though. Given how dunderdummy game plans - what's the point behind either pick??

[smuggler]

Just in case Daniels gets hurt? (because he's the only Dlineman achieving consistent passrush)

[pbmax]

posted a study that showed that dunderdummy played the 2-4 62% of the snaps in 2011?? lol... no other team was even close. It's simply a fact.

And a meme was borne!

No context. No current data. Its a factoid. Slightly less useful than an ad hoc draft assessment.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Man, the more I research Richard Rodgers the more I dislike that pick. I just can't drink the kool aid with this one. The guy is not athletic. He's not a great blocker. I know I'll be proven wrong, but I have a feeling this will go down as one of TT's worst picks. I totally understand most of the other picks (the homer in me wanted Brock Jensen with the last pick), but I'd rather have CB Pierre Desir, Aaron Colvin, or Walt Aikens OR NT DaQuan Jones or Justin Ellis or maybe ILB Jordan Tripp with that 3rd round pick.

[smuggler]

DaQuan Jones was my guy there with that pick. I understand why they didn't take Desir. Colvin just tore his ACL a month ago and Aikens has serious character flags. I just don't see any reason to not like Jones or even Ellis (to a lesser extent).