Packers Draft Grades

[mraynrand]

Its difficult to play when your leg is broken in half. I recall Mike Flannagan had a horrible injury like this in the mid 90s and it took him 2+ years to come back - and he did - so I'm gonna wait and see if Sherrod can too this year.

Not to mention gross malpractice by the KC hack.

[woodbuck27]

I don't know what your point is... my point would be that Ted is about as effective as other GM's.

Rodgers masks a lot, and before him, Favre did; and MM is a very good HC - which TT gets credit for. TT has signed some UFA that have proven to be as good or better than any of his draft picks, sans Rodgers - Williams and Shields. In other very effective moves, Woodson and Pickett were well worth the FA $$ TT gave them.

Add it all up, we snuck off with 1 Lombardi Trophy, are competetive year in and year out b/c of Rodgers, good coaching (on offense anyway), and a pretty good core of players that TT has made sure to lock up with contracts. He's a pretty good GM - not a great one, but a pretty good one.

I'd judge TT as a solid NFL GM.

Will his status increase?

I hope he provides enough for us Packer fans to enjoy another Super Bowl Championship win in the next three seasons. I'm truly hopeful.

GO PACK GO !

[Brandon494]

I totally agree, smuggler. I just put that info out there because I think it's strange how people react to things. When it comes down to it, the scouts were on this kid, studying him, and projecting his talent to the next level. They were not (I hope) throwing darts at a dart board. He'll either be the prospect equivalent of Alex Green, which turned out to be an overdraft (heh, banking puns) or he'll be a solid contributor in time.

The problem with DJ was never his hands though. He just didn't have the height or strength to succeed at TE in the NFL.

[Brandon494]

At first glance, I give it an A+. There are no Justin, can't play Harrell or Nick, athlete not football player, Perry's. It's all players, especially the higher picks.

Fixed!

Also Nick Perry was aight last season when healthy...4 sacks 3 FF in 11 games. He was no stud but any means but he was looking good until he injured his foot.

[pbmax]

At first glance, I give it an A+. There are no Derrek, can't play Sherrods or Nick, athlete not football player, Perry's. It's all players, especially the higher picks.

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Let's see Ha-Ha shatter his tibia and fibula and then make an impact next year after having a second corrective surgery in the offseason. If he doesn't develop Packer Hamstrings, he needs to beat out Chris Banjo and Sean Richardson to take a starting job. Sherrod had to beat out Clifton and Bulaga and Newhouse. HHCD might have had the starting job when he changed planes in Chicago. If he plays below average he will be considered a savior.

Haven't seen the criticism that Perry is not a football player, just that his is not an OLB, but is a D lineman out of position.

I don't think either qualifies as not a football player like Jeremy Thompson or Mike Hawkins.

[smuggler]

Thompson retired in his third season due to a neck injury, though. Why list him next to Hawkins who never even really wanted to play football, but was just an amazing athlete?

To put it into perspective... He's 28 RIGHT NOW.

[woodbuck27]

The last TE that they drafted this high in the draft is D.J. Williams R5 (141) TE 6-2 245 Arkansas

D.J. WILLIAMS, TE, ARKANSAS
AFC scout: "He's an H-back."

AFC scout: "He can run. He's more of the receiving type tight end."

NFC scout: "I really like him. He's more of a fourth-round pick but, man, I'll tell you, every time I saw him I was impressed. Games, Senior Bowl, combine. All he does is catch the ball."

A.J. Smith, San Diego: "He's legitimate."

Dale Strahm, Houston: "He's an H-back, slot, movement kind of guy. Not an on-the-line guy."

AFC scout: "He's kind of an H-back, fullback, off the line of scrimmage tight end. Great effort guy."

NFC scout: "Very good receiver. May have the best hands of the bunch. He's talented. He's like Dustin Keller (of) the Jets. He's going in the third round."

AFC scout: "Small. I don't know if you could line him up as an H-back in the backfield and lead (block) with him. Just a fourth-round kind of guy."

AFC scout: "He's more of an H-back. When I saw him I didn't think he was fast as he was."


compare him to

ROUND: 3, 98th overall
THE PICK: RICHARD RODGERS, TE, CALIFORNIA
AT A GLANCE: Age: 22. Height: 6-4. Weight: 257. Hometown: Worcester, Mass.

(3b.) RICHARD RODGERS, TE, CALIFORNIA
AFC scout: "Kind of a big wide receiver. Kept getting his weight up. Didn't run great. 4.8. That doesn't help him. He's in the fifth, sixth-round range. Not special in any way."

AFC scout: "I like him. I'm trying to hide him. If you go to 2012 film you can watch him block. He's got the best hands of the tight ends. He's 4.87. He's got a broken thumb. Our docs say he's OK."

NFC scout: "He's nothing at all."

Obviously nothing is guaranteed, and you never really know when a prospect will hit or miss. I hope TT gets the last laugh on this one, but we won't know until he has a real chance. D.J. Williams never really took off and he won the Mackey Award coming out of Arkansas and came with a little more promise. We'll see if they either wasted their pick and should have drafted a better TE or if they saw something most everyone else did not. Hope it's the latter.

Yes we all do as we need more at TE. We need a TE that can pick it up for us in the Red Zone.

That can battle and bring in a tough catch and certainly can block well.

[mraynrand]

Thompson retired in his third season due to a neck injury, though. Why list him next to Hawkins who never even really wanted to play football, but was just an amazing athlete?

To put it into perspective... He's 28 RIGHT NOW.

I have Mike Hawkins listed as 30 - born in 1983. He is doing well - about half way along on his physics doctorate, studying dark matter.

Google search "Mike Hawkins Packers Corner" - second hit is packerrats! http://packerrats.com/archive/index.php/t-2168.html

[pbmax]

Thompson did not seem to be advancing or have a place with the Packers prior to the injury. There was some reporting that OLB would suit him better, but not much developed there either.

Hawkins was precisely a great athlete who could not find a place on an NFL roster. These are people, to my mind, who did not become effective professional football players. I don't think that describes Perry or Sherrod.

[denverYooper]

I have Mike Hawkins listed as 30 - born in 1983. He is doing well - about half way along on his physics doctorate, studying dark matter.

Google search "Mike Hawkins Packers Corner" - second hit is packerrats! http://packerrats.com/archive/index.php/t-2168.html

So he's about 4 years in?

[mraynrand]

So he's about 4 years in?

More like 1/3. There's been some issues with the mine shaft elevator.

[pbmax]

More like 1/3. There's been some issues with the mine shaft elevator.

I worry about the mine shaft gap.

[denverYooper]

I worry about the mine shaft gap.

You think the Soviets have enough females to keep up at that ratio? Most of women have come over here in the mail-order bride program.

[pbmax]

You think the Soviets have enough females to keep up at that ratio? Most of women have come over here in the mail-order bride program.

Capitalism 1, Autocratic Oligarchy 0


I do think there is a dashboard cam deficit though.

[Guiness]

+1 thread drift...