Packers Draft Grades

[smuggler]

Sorry I meant to say that Thompson, not Hawkins, was 28.

[hoosier]

+1 thread drift...

You clearly are not seeing the connection.

[QBME]

You clearly are not seeing the connection.

[woodbuck27]

Sorry but....Back to the 2014 draft and grading.

It was my observation that TT and the Packers did well. He lost focus in Round Three and certainly could have brought the packers more fruits there as the talent existed and one other later pick was rather weak as I saw it but overall he did very well.

His best pick might have been in round two as I can see WR Rookie Davante Adams soon being a favourite Aaron Rodgers target .

An interesting watch for me will be TT's 1st Rd. pick @ #21 FS Hasean "Ha Ha" Clinton - Dix Vs. the San Fran 49ers #30 pick SS Jimmie Ward.

I believe that the san Fran 49ers again had a very strong draft. Pick after pick they certainly appeared to nail it and were graded accordingly. If the Packers draft was rightfully graded in the "A" range the San Fran 49ers deserved an A+.

The Minnesota Vikings Oakland Raiders and I'll include the Jacksonville Jag's as well as having superior drafts considering all information available to us.

The bottom line. I believe that Ted Thompson added strength to our roster where the need was. TT didn't draft BPA. He was prudent IMO and tried his best to satisfy the Green Bay Packers needs. He did a nice job.

GO PACK GO !

[hoosier]

Woodbuck, TTs third round priorities were obviously different from the way the pundits had things going down. Why do you automatically assume that means that TT was wrong. What if he knows something they don't know? Why aren't you willing to give some benefit of the doubt to people who get paid to evaluate college football talent, who have spent most of their adult lives doing it and who have proven records of success?

[Joemailman]

The later you go in the draft, the more you are drafting players who have a significant weakness in their game. So you're looking for players whose strong points are a good fit for your system, and whose weak points won't be that significant. Teams will therefore grade certain players quite differently from other teams. I believe that TT had a 3rd round grade or early 4th round grade on Rodgers even though other teams and "Experts" might have graded him lower than that. If TT had a 5th round grade on Rodgers, he would have waited until the 5th round to take him. If Rodgers was gone, he would have taken someone else. That's the way he works.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, TTs third round priorities were obviously different from the way the pundits had things going down. Why do you automatically assume that means that TT was wrong. What if he knows something they don't know? Why aren't you willing to give some benefit of the doubt to people who get paid to evaluate college football talent, who have spent most of their adult lives doing it and who have proven records of success?

I'm pleased with TT's performance in this draft.

I'm dedicated to at least trying to understand TT's moves.

TT for the most part or generally "picked for need' this 2014 draft.

Again overall he did very well and I'm pleased to feel that way.

[woodbuck27]

Woodbuck, TTs third round priorities were obviously different from the way the pundits had things going down. Why do you automatically assume that means that TT was wrong. What if he knows something they don't know? Why aren't you willing to give some benefit of the doubt to people who get paid to evaluate college football talent, who have spent most of their adult lives doing it and who have proven records of success?

I slept on your post:

TT certainly is the architect of the Green Bay Packers and through some inner circle consultation surely knows what's best to pick to achieve his goals.

I weigh that Vs the many so called NFL experts that measure one prospect Vs all others and make projections as to ie when a certain prospect is most likely to be drafted.

I digest all that and simply try to make some sence of TT's moves as pertinent to improving the team on a more or less likely basis.

Maybe? ...look at an article like this and see if this author was out to lunch or rather close in his analysis as _Packer options for the Day Two (Round Two) picks in the 2014 Draft. There is so much available like this to help us all be more informed and capable of being valid and on top of it.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/green_bay_packers_sign_wr_jeff_janis_cut_cb_james_nixon/16472434?linksrc=story_team_green_bay_packers_auto_module_head_16472434

Green Bay Packers: Five Realistic Options For Round 2 of 2014 NFL Draft

Posted on May 9, 2014

By: Chris Peterson

I'd add something like this:

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/green_bay_packers_sign_wr_jeff_janis_cut_cb_james_nixon/16472434?linksrc=story_team_green_bay_packers_auto_module_head_16472434

I'm by nature analytical and use a lifetime of gaining some skill there to assess Ted Thompson's drafts. I read a load of material to ensure that I'm more or less acquainted with what's going on. To be confident of my positions.

Am I correct in those positions? Time always gives me the answer to that question and I use such to grow and become more knowledgeable. I'm not prejudiced against TT on a per move basis.if he does good and I see that I'm happy as a Packer fan.

Otherwise and I may take a stance.

[Just Jeff]

Woodbuck, TTs third round priorities were obviously different from the way the pundits had things going down. Why do you automatically assume that means that TT was wrong. What if he knows something they don't know? Why aren't you willing to give some benefit of the doubt to people who get paid to evaluate college football talent, who have spent most of their adult lives doing it and who have proven records of success?

If you question is not rhetorical, I'll guess, because its a fan forum and that's what we do.

[woodbuck27]

If you question is not rhetorical, I'll guess, because its a fan forum and that's what we do.

Yes.

[Fritz]

Funny, there was an article somewhere in the GBPG, maybe, about draft grades from 2011 just coming in. Green Bay got a "D," with Randall Cobb being the only hit, but Ryan Taylor and Davon House barely hanging on and Sherrod trying to see if he can even play.

Does getting a star player and not much else get you only a "D"? Is that correct?

[MadScientist]

Funny, there was an article somewhere in the GBPG, maybe, about draft grades from 2011 just coming in. Green Bay got a "D," with Randall Cobb being the only hit, but Ryan Taylor and Davon House barely hanging on and Sherrod trying to see if he can even play.

Does getting a star player and not much else get you only a "D"? Is that correct?

Does Cobb even qualify as a star? He was 3/4 receiver until last year, and was injured half of that season. He's a dynamic player, but not so much of a difference maker to up the grade of the draft. Nobody is fawning over the 2011 draft now they way they were in may of 2011.

[smuggler]

I'd say one player from 9 picks is a D, yes Fritz.

The NFL is an injury-defined league. Where was that star player for most of last season? On the bench with an injury.

How many players from the 2011 draft were there to account for his absence? Not many, because it was a bad draft. You win some (2013), you lose some (2011).

[woodbuck27]

Funny, there was an article somewhere in the GBPG, maybe, about draft grades from 2011 just coming in. Green Bay got a "D," with Randall Cobb being the only hit, but Ryan Taylor and Davon House barely hanging on and Sherrod trying to see if he can even play.

Does getting a star player and not much else get you only a "D"? Is that correct?

I'd say that's about right but if it's a "D" or a "C -" does it really change the water on the beans? As Packer fans we'll long remember Aaron Rodgers long to Randall Cobb and in behind the Chicago Bears secondary....TD !

Packers win! Packers win !! ..... PACKERS WIN !!!

Packers go into the Season 2013 playoff.

I hope so much that Derek Sherrod can finally give something to TT for his pick and confidence in that.

Grades don't win Conference Championships >>>Super Bowls. Big plays by star players do.

Strong OL play that protects star QBs really helps.

[MadScientist]

Grades don't win Conference Championships >>>Super Bowls. Big plays by star players do.

Strong OL play that protects star QBs really helps.

Grades right after the draft don't win championships. Grades 3 years later reflect not winning a championship, and and the lack of contribution leading to not winning championships.

Strong OL play ... we could use some of that around here.