Packers Draft Grades

[Pugger]

Does Cobb even qualify as a star? He was 3/4 receiver until last year, and was injured half of that season. He's a dynamic player, but not so much of a difference maker to up the grade of the draft. Nobody is fawning over the 2011 draft now they way they were in may of 2011.

He may not be elite but his absence last season really hurt. I don't think it was a coincidence that the offense improved with him back in the lineup. IMO Nelson is a star. He continued to produce even with Wallace, Tolzien and Flynn throwing him the ball.

[woodbuck27]

He may not be elite but his absence last season really hurt. I don't think it was a coincidence that the offense improved with him back in the lineup. IMO Nelson is a star. He continued to produce even with Wallace, Tolzien and Flynn throwing him the ball.

That speaks mountains RE: his exceptional athleticism.

QUESTION:

If you had to lose Randall Cobb or Jordy Nelson to FA in 2015.

Which loss would pressure Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers worse?

[Fritz]

I'd say one player from 9 picks is a D, yes Fritz.

The NFL is an injury-defined league. Where was that star player for most of last season? On the bench with an injury.

How many players from the 2011 draft were there to account for his absence? Not many, because it was a bad draft. You win some (2013), you lose some (2011).

I'm not necessarily disagreeing. Just wondering if you include Taylor as a ST guy and House as a backup whether that makes any difference, and if Sherrod should win a starting job whether that grade could still change, or if people feel it's safe to say that draft was a Thompson Turd.

[mraynrand]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing. Just wondering if you include Taylor as a ST guy and House as a backup whether that makes any difference, and if Sherrod should win a starting job whether that grade could still change, or if people feel it's safe to say that draft was a Thompson Turd.

not quite yet, but if House and Sherrod don't contribute, yeah, it's a Davenport Special.

[Guiness]

I'm not necessarily disagreeing. Just wondering if you include Taylor as a ST guy and House as a backup whether that makes any difference, and if Sherrod should win a starting job whether that grade could still change, or if people feel it's safe to say that draft was a Thompson Turd.

It can still be reviewed, but at this point it's a C-, based on Cobb and some play out of House. You can't disregard his contribution, although no one is happy with his play, he's still on the team 3 years later, which I think is the average length of an NFL career? He played 44% of the D snaps and 68% of the ST snaps last year. He was an important role player and backup.

[Bretsky]

Funny, there was an article somewhere in the GBPG, maybe, about draft grades from 2011 just coming in. Green Bay got a "D," with Randall Cobb being the only hit, but Ryan Taylor and Davon House barely hanging on and Sherrod trying to see if he can even play.

Does getting a star player and not much else get you only a "D"? Is that correct?

I want more out of a full draft than what we got in 2011

[Bretsky]

We don't need another blocking TE. By the 3rd round there weren't a lot of TEs left so I suppose Ted took the best of a sorry lot?

It was troubling to watch Nix tumble in the draft. I'm rather glad Ted passed.

I'm torn on Nix; I wanted NOTHING to do with him in round one or two. But I give Houston a ton of credit for trading ahead of us to get him in round 3. I was one of his detractors but even I think getting him that late was a great move

[woodbuck27]

I'm torn on Nix; I wanted NOTHING to do with him in round one or two. But I give Houston a ton of credit for trading ahead of us to get him in round 3. I was one of his detractors but even I think getting him that late was a great move

I think they got value in Nix there.

If he matures he could be a solid pick.

[run pMc]

I think giving the 2011 draft a D grade is fair. Cobb is pretty good, but you need more than one player turning into starter to make it to a C or better.
House has teased, and Taylor is good on ST but replaceable. Yes, if Sherrod can come back from a horrific injury and contribute then the grade improves.

[mraynrand]

I think they got value in Nix there.

If he matures he could be a solid pick.

If my mother had wheels, she'd be a wagon. Wait and see.

[Fritz]

I'm torn on Nix; I wanted NOTHING to do with him in round one or two. But I give Houston a ton of credit for trading ahead of us to get him in round 3. I was one of his detractors but even I think getting him that late was a great move

See, this is what I've never really understood. So you didn't like Nix, you were a big detractor - you went on record that he was/is nothing but another slug.

Yet had the Packers picked him....in the third round - you'd have been happy to get him? And you applaud Houston for even trading up ahead of the Packers? So I take that to mean that if TT had traded up and gotten Nix earlier in the third than he got Thornton, you'd have been happy?

I don't get that. You didn't like Nix, but you thought he'd have been good to get in the third round.

Can you 'splain?

[Pugger]

That speaks mountains RE: his exceptional athleticism.

QUESTION:

If you had to lose Randall Cobb or Jordy Nelson to FA in 2015.

Which loss would pressure Aaron Rodgers and the Green Bay Packers worse?

If I HAD to chose I'd go with Nelson. Of course Cobb is much younger...I hope we can keep them both so this entire notion will end up being moot.