2014 Offseason Questions

[ThunderDan]

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It's just Tank coming back as his 5th incarnation. As soon as he starts quoting Coldplay lyrics we will know for sure.

[Just Jeff]

Yes. Criticism of AR for not looking quickly enough for open dump-offs when he sees cover-2 is a specific criticism of one aspect of a great player's game.

On the other hand, mass condemnations of an entire position group over the course of several years (without considering the success of Sitton or the injuries to two first-round offensive picks, plus...

Lines like this -

"If they were truly worried about his durablity, they wouldn't a) have an oline that is average at best, b) continue to change the Oline on an annual basis"

- which suggest that the GM (or is it the entire organization?) isn't worried about Aaron Rodgers's durability (and thus simply don't care about drafting good offensive linemen), do not add up to thoughtful analysis.

So again I have criticised one aspect of TTs GM skills. I don't think he has a clue about drafting Olineman. I think he does well at managing the cap, its too bad there wasn't an award for that. It doesn't matter that TT has picked 20 something Olineman in the draft or that there have been three first round picks on the oline, the only thing that matters is the results, and the results suck. We did this with Favre and were doing it with AR. We are not surrounding either of them with the tools to win. This is not a TT rant. It applies to Wolf, Sherman and TT. Of those Wolf has admitted to the same, so this isn't just coming from me. To win 2 superbowls with 20 years of the top QB in football, is a crime to me. If you don't like the verbage that I convey that with, blame it on the Chicago Public Schools.

[Zool]

So again I have criticised one aspect of TTs GM skills.

Over, and over, and over, and over, and o......

[vince]

Extreme liberalism and poetic soliloquies from the perspective of a fictitious white-haired closet homosexual who can't seem to emerge from a deep sleep can only be days away now....

[run pMc]

So again I have criticised one aspect of TTs GM skills. I don't think he has a clue about drafting Olineman. I think he does well at managing the cap, its too bad there wasn't an award for that. It doesn't matter that TT has picked 20 something Olineman in the draft or that there have been three first round picks on the oline, the only thing that matters is the results, and the results suck. We did this with Favre and were doing it with AR. We are not surrounding either of them with the tools to win. This is not a TT rant. It applies to Wolf, Sherman and TT. Of those Wolf has admitted to the same, so this isn't just coming from me. To win 2 superbowls with 20 years of the top QB in football, is a crime to me. If you don't like the verbage that I convey that with, blame it on the Chicago Public Schools.

I have a different opinion. I don't think TT has a fantastic track record with OL, but he's not awful either. He's done much better going from the roster he inherited to where it is now. Compare that with say, the Mike Sherman years, or the years immediately preceding Ron Wolf. What OL did Sherman draft when he wasn't trading picks for B.J. Sander? Sherman inherited his OL from Wolf. When TT took over Rivera was broken and Wahle wanted to get paid, and Favre had Taco Wallace and Antonio Chatham out there running routes.

The OL as is today isn't Top 5 but it's at worst average and at best Top 10. That they can continue to make the playoffs in spite of the defense is a testament to the offense, which includes Rodgers and the men protecting him.

[woodbuck27]

I hadn't thought of it until now, but there is an eery similarity between what he has said about Tretter this off-season and what he said about Nick McDonald in the off-season before they cut him.

Once Upon A Time In Green Bay.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_McDonald#New_England_Patriots

Nick McDonald is an American football guard and center who is currently signed with the San Diego Chargers of National Football League (NFL).

[Pugger]

I do not understand this line of thinking.

In the playoff game, the Offense was FAR WORSE than the defense, even if the defense had the more remarkable errors. Its a concern until they outplay a great D.

Can we point to Rodgers being a tad rusty? He had issues in the bare game the week before.

[pbmax]

Can we point to Rodgers being a tad rusty? He had issues in the bare game the week before.

Absolutely. I used that game because the defense showed what it was capable of (both good and bad) and actually did well enough to keep the O in the game. But even non-rusty Rodgers has had trouble with that kind of defense.

I fully expect Rodgers and the O to outperform the defense overall in 2014. But that game was a clear demonstration that problems can and do exist on the offensive side.

[Pugger]

I have a different opinion. I don't think TT has a fantastic track record with OL, but he's not awful either. He's done much better going from the roster he inherited to where it is now. Compare that with say, the Mike Sherman years, or the years immediately preceding Ron Wolf. What OL did Sherman draft when he wasn't trading picks for B.J. Sander? Sherman inherited his OL from Wolf. When TT took over Rivera was broken and Wahle wanted to get paid, and Favre had Taco Wallace and Antonio Chatham out there running routes.

The OL as is today isn't Top 5 but it's at worst average and at best Top 10. That they can continue to make the playoffs in spite of the defense is a testament to the offense, which includes Rodgers and the men protecting him.

We have one of the better guard tandems in the league (some say Sitton is a top 5 guard), Bulaga is very good (when he isn't hurt), Bak played great for a raw 4th round rookie and from what I hear Sherrod has looked terrific in the OTAs. It will be fun to see how he looks in pads. The coaches thought enough about Tretter that they let EDS walk plus drafted another so there is depth there. IMO the O line is the least of our worries going into 2014.

[pbmax]

On Question #4: Sherrod

For those still in doubt about why Sherrod needs to be the left tackle, I present to you a visual aid. Pay close attention to the background of this picture of Starkplug and Eddie.

[Guiness]

On Question #4: Sherrod

For those still in doubt about why Sherrod needs to be the left tackle, I present to you a visual aid. Pay close attention to the background of this picture of Starkplug and Eddie.

A good big man beats a good little man every time.

Other observations: Mr. Lacy is sporting the spare tire again, but I doubt anyone will comment about it this year. Sherrod's got some male pattern baldness going on and he's what, 25?

[mraynrand]

On Question #4: Sherrod

For those still in doubt about why Sherrod needs to be the left tackle, I present to you a visual aid. Pay close attention to the background of this picture of Starkplug and Eddie.

No kidding - Sherry should be able to just eat up OLBs and the smaller DEs like Jared Allen

[mraynrand]

Sherrod's got some male pattern baldness going on and he's what, 25?

I'm sorry, but were you saying something negative about bald guys? I couldn't hear you above the sound of kicking someone's ass!

[woodbuck27]

A good big man beats a good little man every time.

Other observations: Mr. Lacy is sporting the spare tire again, but I doubt anyone will comment about it this year. Sherrod's got some male pattern baldness going on and he's what, 25?

Tell that to Chris "Knuckles" Nilan or Martin St. Louis.

Tell that to Patrick Kane.

[Fritz]

Wow. Great visual. Based strictly on appearances (and that isn't the greatest measuring stick or Jeremy Thompson would've been an all-pro), Bahktieri can battle OLB's and defensive linemen, and Sherrod can simply engulf them.

Man, I hope Sherrod plays really, really well, and stays really, really healthy. I'd like to see what he can do.