Ted Thompson - We stuck with the board

[smuggler]

Depends. If you see Rodgers in the preseason playing at 270 or 275, I think it's more an indictment of (or even just competition for) Quarless. If he comes in at 240 or so, Bostick might be done.

[mraynrand]

I'm thinking/hoping Richardson is gone

Why the hell would they dump Richardson? At worst, he would be relegated to first backup on the depth chart.

[woodbuck27]

Collins, James Jones, Jennings, Jolly, Sitton, Finley, Nelson, Giacomini, Flynn, CM3, Lang, ETC....

All you really have to do is go over and see how many of his picks are still in the NFL.

Of course "sports fan guy" is always smarter than the "idiots running this team" and could draft a better team if given a shot. Oddly enough sports fan guy does not work with or near a sports franchise and doesn't aspire to use his considerable talents in player evaluation by applying for a position. It's far easier to wax poetic about it and find other complainers.

TT "of course" had to hit on some picks.

That's just reasonable to expect.

Could he maybe of done better? I'm sure he'd tell you himself that he could have done better. That many picks disappointed him.

I'm sure of that because it's a TRUTH.

[woodbuck27]

Why the hell would they dump Richardson? At worst, he would be relegated to first backup on the depth chart.

Why? ...are you so angry? Calm down please...get a grip on your arrogance.

[run pMc]

First of all, I don't see any need for Thompson or McCarthy or whoever to give honest accurate assessments to the media or to fans in general. If they have an obligation to us, the fans, it is to put a winning team on the field - NOT to tell the whole world, including other teams how it's done and what the thinking is.

Clearly, saying he's not drafting to needs is pure bullshit. Similarly, what the plans are for particular players is for us to speculate and them to shut up about until the sausage is made.

All that being said, here's some of my speculation: I think Bradford will get a good try at ILB - supposedly he can play there, and that's where the need is. I think Linsley will get a try at long snapper - to save a roster spot, but in the end, they will take the cautious route and keep Goode. I think they will use more 5 WR sets like several years ago - Abbrederis making the team in addition to Adams, maybe even Jaris. I'm thinking/hoping Richardson is gone and maybe Banjo too, with Goodson being a backup Safety. I really don't know what to make of drafting Richard Rodgers - having another project TE, to me, says maybe they don't think as highly of Bostick as some people think.

Agree there's no law saying TT or M3 has to be totally honest/transparent, and in fact they have no incentives to be, nevermind that every GM acts the same. I think HHCD was probably the BPA (or at least on a short list) when it was their turn at 21, as for the other picks it's hard to say. I don't think picking 3 WRs screams drafting for need when one would have sufficed. As with many things the truth lies somewhere in between: he picked BPAs that fit their scheme and needs.

Bradford sounded a bit like Desmond Bishop 2.0 but it sounds like they will keep him at OLB. I guess moving to ILB is hard for some edge players because the play is happening from both sides. I like his motor and production but he's pretty short so he might be worth trying out inside all the same. If Peppers ends up being a one year rental and Palmer/Mulumba don't make a jump then Bradford is there for competition and depth.

Agree Linsley is there for competition for Goode and Tretter; fans (and McGinn) would be screaming about how TT went into the season unprepared at C if Tretter gets hurt or sucks...so the pick makes sense from a needs standpoint and he might have been the best C at that point.
Abbrederis makes it if he can return kicks and punts. He'll have to play ST regardless if he wants to stick as a #5. I worry about the concussion history and wonder if he gets a mystery injury and spends the year on IR and in the weight room. Janis is a question mark to me.

I think they like Richardson a lot and Banjo is the odd man out unless Hyde can't play safety. HHCD will start with Burnett on Day 1 of camp and be given every chance to prove he belongs. Goodson gets Nixon's snaps in camp but he's a project and at 5-11 195 he's a bit of a stretch at Safety. I think he's a developmental CB.

Richard Rodgers says he'll play at 260 which is closer to Quarless. I don't think he'll see a lot of live snaps unless injuries hit, but being a R3 pick he's a virtual lock to make the team. I know they like Taylor and Bostick but might not keep both, and I don't think they will keep Stoneburner. He's the #3 TE and will play ST. I think they like Bostick but want to see him continue to develop into Finley-lite. If he's just a tease they'll let him go.

[pbmax]

TT "of course" had to hit on some picks.

That's just reasonable to expect.

Could he maybe of done better? I'm sure he'd tell you himself that he could have done better. That many picks disappointed him.

I'm sure of that because it's a TRUTH.

Best player (Rodgers) falling to Packers was just luck. Reasonable to hit on some other picks. Could have done better. Many picks disappoint. These things could be said about any GM in the League.

But ...

If that's the case then we can now understand his too often blown draft picks.

By what standard of measure do you get this? And how do other GMs stack up according to your standard?

[Guiness]

lol @ wanting TT to be honest/transparent. If he did that, the Packers would get submarined and be screwed! They'd be like the German in WWII after the Enigma machine was stolen!

[mraynrand]

Why? ...are you so angry? Calm down please...get a grip on your arrogance.

stick to football posts please. Leave your personal attacks out of it. Thanks.

[woodbuck27]

lol @ wanting TT to be honest/transparent. If he did that, the Packers would get submarined and be screwed! They'd be like the German in WWII after the Enigma machine was stolen!

TT ha ha...and real/honest.

There's no danger of that and his ways.

Ask Brett Favre about that.

[woodbuck27]

stick to football posts please. Leave your personal attacks out of it. Thanks.

Aren't you the Choir Boy.

[mraynrand]

Aren't you the Choir Boy.

aim higher

[red]

If the cost to trade up was a 2nd I'd pass. I'd rather have HaHa and Adams than Mosley....now if we only had to give up a 3rd it's debatable. I'd probably have Mosley than the Cali TE and HaHa

you gottaalso keep in mind though that any decent safety prospect was off the board by our second pick.

drafting HACD where we did was the absolute right move IMO

[mraynrand]

you gottaalso keep in mind though that any decent safety prospect was off the board by our second pick.

drafting HACD where we did was the absolute right move IMO

That's why TT was sweating it so much - after HHC-D it was second tier safety territory. Makes you wonder what they would have done if Shazier was still on the board. But never mind, what ifs suck.

[ThunderDan]

Peoples praise of Rich Rodgers in the SEA thread reminded me of the 2014 Draft. So I bumped this thread. Quite a few funny posts. Woodbuck saying that Rodgers and Lindsley were horrible picks. run pMc nailing point after point on page 2.

Great thread to look at again.

[Fritz]

I wonder if Woodbuck is still alive.