Colt Lyerla in Packer Rookie Orientation

[mission]

Just watched his highlights for the first time and he looks like a first round talent. There's a couple plays where it took like 15 guys to bring him down... musta been coked up. (sorry)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2WmPZZ3TWI

[gbgary]

Matt Miller @nfldraftscout: With no off-field history, Lyerla would have been my No. 2 ranked TE in this class (behind Ebron) and a Rd2 grade.

a scout I follow on twitter.

[hoosier]

Matt Millen @nfldraftscout: With no off-field history, Lyerla would have been my No. 2 ranked TE in this class (behind Ebron) and a Rd2 grade.

a scout I follow on twitter.

Considering your scout's history of drafting receivers, we should give up all hope for Lyerla and start wishing the Packers would cut him before he does any damage.

[Carolina_Packer]

a scout I follow on twitter.

If Lyerla makes the 53 man and makes an impact, he may be more valuable to the Packers than Ebron to the Lions because I think Lyerla will be willing to inline block, as well as get open.

[Guiness]

Mae and I have been busy this weekend and I havn't visited Packerrats.

The stuff I'm reading on him now:

I need to re-assess him but in the real I'm surprized that the Packers are showing an interest. That's not in my view a really bad thing. It's the team that must evaluate him and not the Packer (NFL) fans. At least he's getting a shot. He has to be pleased with that Guiness.

There's a certain LBer in Cincy that most NFL teams shunned and should now see that was unfair to them and him. This fella is an enormous talent.

There's nothing wrong with a close look.

Very happy they brought him in. Just happen to also be very shocked!

I don't understand why he's being compared to Burfict, nothing in common other than they both came out of HS as top recruits. Burfict had a few off-field problems, but his big issue is he did not perform well on the field, and bad-mouthed his coaches. Lyerla performed well on the field, but was a train wreck off it.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Off talent alone, I'd go Ebron, ASJ, and then Lyerla. ASJ was hurt by injury concerns, but I think he's a stud also. Ebron is a first round talent. ASJ and Lyerla are borderline first round talents. I'd take those three before Amaro.

[pbmax]

What would Cleft Crusty say about Lyerla when Cliff Christl was nearly apoplectic about TT signing Koren Robinson?

[Brandon494]

Off talent alone, I'd go Ebron, ASJ, and then Lyerla. ASJ was hurt by injury concerns, but I think he's a stud also. Ebron is a first round talent. ASJ and Lyerla are borderline first round talents. I'd take those three before Amaro.

He definitely a 2nd round talent who will turn out to be a steal for us. Looking at his twitter he does seem to want to prove everyone wrong so he has the right attitude right now. I think hes a good kid who just made some bad choices and hes a lock to make the 53 IMO for whatever thats worth.

[pbmax]

I hope he turns out well. It would be a needed shot n the arm for the receivers and TE in particular.

Given the way the draft fell and yielded Rodgers, Thompson clearly wasn't convinced the hole was plugged.

They have been burned twice before by players in bad spots (Robinson-got suspended shortly after joining the team and Jolly). They have had a turnaround success story (Lang). It'll be an embarrassment if he flames out, but they can survive it.

Not a fan but definitely worth the risk.

[denverYooper]

Scoops is worried.

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn 41m
Rest assured 31 other NFL teams raised eyebrows and wondered about leadership/direction in Green Bay after the signing of TE Lyerla.

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 3m
Hmmm. RT @BobMcGinn Rest assured 31 other teams raised eyebrows & wondered about leadership/direction in GB after Lyerla signing

[pbmax]

What in God's green earth does that mean? Really, they are suddenly confused about who is in control? After Jolly and Robinson?

Bob is just about the clearest example of how access to information is not equivalent to clear thinking. If Belichick did this, he would be hailed as savior.

I don't think its a particularly good risk because this kid (for me) doesn't fit into the "got into trouble for a while at school" mold. The conspiracy theory, drug use and leaving of a team seem to argue for something more substantially wrong than youthful indiscretion.

But the risk is minimal if it goes south (short of a murder spree) , Thompson and McCarthy will both survive intact. And because its once again based on need (and that there are not that many gaping holes on this team) its clearly not the preferred method of doing business.

[pbmax]

There was more.

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn 1h
Here's what #Packers got in Colt Lyerla, based on pre-draft remarks by personnel people ... http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...259883161.html …

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn 1h
Thompson, McCarthy, Murphy/board, welcoming fans show they can bottom-feed with the best signing off on TE Lyerla. What price glory?

Bob McGinn @BobMcGinn 1h
#Packers had four-year history with DE Johnny Jolly before bringing him back. They had TE Lyerla for four days before signing him.


The last one makes some internal sense. However, I am not sure they knew anything more about Jolly's chance for success than Lyerla's EXCEPT for how he had previously played as a pro

If that is the threshold for taking a risk, then you are just arguing for a flexible character standard based on how good the player is. You are not arguing against bottom feeding.

[mission]

What in God's green earth does that mean? Really, they are suddenly confused about who is in control? After Jolly and Robinson?

Bob is just about the clearest example of how access to information is not equivalent to clear thinking. If Belichick did this, he would be hailed as savior.

I don't think its a particularly good risk because this kid (for me) doesn't fit into the "got into trouble for a while at school" mold. The conspiracy theory, drug use and leaving of a team seem to argue for something more substantially wrong than youthful indiscretion.

But the risk is minimal if it goes south (short of a murder spree) , Thompson and McCarthy will both survive intact. And because its once again based on need (and that there are not that many gaping holes on this team) its clearly not the preferred method of doing business.

All the conspiracy theory stuff might as well be the drug use. It's nothing different or in addition to the cocaine. You get rid of the cocaine, you get rid of the paranoia and the world is out to get me.

Not to say the guy is normal, but he's got some purpose now and if he can stay off the blow and really probably away from alcohol (booze is blow's best friend) then he should be fine.

[QBME]

All the conspiracy theory stuff might as well be the drug use. It's nothing different or in addition to the cocaine. You get rid of the cocaine, you get rid of the paranoia and the world is out to get me.

Not to say the guy is normal, but he's got some purpose now and if he can stay off the blow and really probably away from alcohol (booze is blow's best friend) then he should be fine.

Yep.

[Cleft Crusty]

As a journalism question, Bob is engaging in what might commonly be referred to as 'hypocrisy.' To Clefty's knowledge, The Packers, or more specifically, Mike McCarthy, Ted Thomspson, and Mr. Murphy have not published any specific document, or made reference to any specific iron-clad, non-negotiable set of criteria for acceptance or exclusion of any individual as a potential Packer. An ill-advised bird-whistle (I guess they call it a 'tweet') from a person tangentially associated with the Packers regarding Aldon Smith's behavior, does not a policy make.

The Packers past under the current regime shows that they have a limit to what they will tolerate, and that they will let any criminal charges run their course. They obviously place performance and conduct high on their list for people currently in the organization, but don't use former behavior as a reason to entirely exclude someone.

I realize Packerrats has a political ban in the Packer threads, but to address the UrinalScented perspective on such things as cocaine use and adherence to conspiracy theories as being behavior that is 'beyond the pale' with respect to football players, without recognizing their support of political candidates who engage in the same activities (such as admitted cocaine and pot use by certain very prominent and very 'high' ranking officials, or adherence to conspiracy theories e.g. '911 truthers' by other politicians), backed and endorsed by the UrinalScented editorial board, would be to accept their hypocrisy without comment. Yes, Bob McGinn is a hypocrite, or at the very least, he works for an organization that is hypocritical. And that seems to be pretty much identical to his perspective on the Packer organization. Bob might do well to first remove the watertown-plank-road from his eye, or at least the journalistic eye of the UrinalScented.