Official Non NFC North NFL News 2014 (Unofficial Johnny Manziel)

[pbmax]

Best analysis so far today:

1. Replacing last year's head coach [Schiano, earlier compared to Custer], a rabid ferret who found a whistle in a pile of garbage at a landfill, with Love 'n' Jeff, besties who rekindled their love for football during a magical 2013 retreat in Lovie Smith's basement. Lovie and Tedford's defensive and offensive schemes harken back to the turn of the millennium, but outdated strategies are better than tactics built upon the bedrock of loathing and resenting your own players.

http://www.sportsonearth.com/article/84497886/tampa-bay-buccaneers-many-changes-lovie-smith-josh-mccown-jeff-tedford#!beP5Ba

[Guiness]

Bushy tailed? What makes you say that? They look like they'd be neatly trimmed tail, if not shaved.

Reminds me of a 'That 70's show' episode, when Hyde says he's going to write "I hate the fuzz" on his butt while streaking, and Fez asks him if he hates the fuzz on his butt, why doesn't he just shave it off?

[Joemailman]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/15/new...raham-contract

Jimmy Graham: 4 years, 40 million, 12 million signing bonus, 21 million guaranteed.

[Just Jeff]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/15/new...raham-contract

Jimmy Graham: 4 years, 40 million, 12 million signing bonus, 21 million guaranteed.

I understand the love of the game and the lifetime earnings thing, but if the best TE in the NFL gets "only" $10 million per year, how in the good Lord's name will Finley get anywhere near that. And yet if he retires, he gets that AND ITS TAX FREE, so like $14 million to stay home and not live your years in a wheel chair.

[smuggler]

The Saints have no cap room. Ever again.

[Guiness]

http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/07/15/new...raham-contract

Jimmy Graham: 4 years, 40 million, 12 million signing bonus, 21 million guaranteed.

They're calling it a 2yr, $21M deal. 12M SB + 1M first year salary, 8M second year salary guaranteed for injury only. So they could cut him after the first year, but that would leave them paying 13M for a year's service from a TE. I wonder how the 3rd and 4th years are structured, he might have the option to hit the open market again at 29yrs old.

[pbmax]

How did I miss this?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/16/bizarre-courtroom-scenes-lead-to-greg-hardy-conviction/

We should have this trial as a thread alongside the World Cup to get us through June.

Spectacular testimony that should be the basis of a new blockbuster comedy starring Mark Wahlberg and Kevin Hart.

Prosecutor Jamie Adams: “You had alcohol.”

Hardy: “Champagne.”

Adams: “Is champagne alcohol?”

Hardy: “You tell me.”

Adams: “OK we’ll move on.”

[hoosier]

Hardy has a second career as attorney or testimony consultant waiting for him when he retires.

[Fritz]

I feel like Manziel will be as good as Timmy Tebone.

[MadScientist]

I feel like Manziel will be as good as Timmy Tebone.

He's the anti Timmy - plenty of NFL-ready talent, but wasted on the party life and being full of himself. Matt Leinart would be the closest example.

[Fritz]

I just don't think he's really all that talented. To me, he's kinda like Doug Flutie or Teboner - a very good college quarterback whose skills will not translate well to the NFL.

I did not mean in terms of personality. I meant someone with lots and lots of press who really isn't that great.

[MadScientist]

I just don't think he's really all that talented. To me, he's kinda like Doug Flutie or Teboner - a very good college quarterback whose skills will not translate well to the NFL.

I did not mean in terms of personality. I meant someone with lots and lots of press who really isn't that great.

I guess I see him more of the 'million dollar arm, five cent head' type. Tebone was just as you described, with most scouts thinking he was not going to be a good pro. Manziel's problem is between his ears, which is what the Pat's leaked scouting report indicates. Ryan Leaf might be a better comparison, talent, bad attitude, drugs, done.

[Guiness]

I'll take exception to the mention of Flutie in relation. Other than his pro debut in the USFL, he was successful. TD-INT was 86-68 at the NFL level. He wasn't a super star, but wasn't a bust either, and I think would have done ok if given a reasonable opportunity, but between crossing the picket line in '87 and that he played in the league when they barely looked at guys who were not 6'2" pocket passers. He spent his prime in the CFL, but I think he would have done well in the NFL during those years.

[Rastak]

How did I miss this?

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/16/bizarre-courtroom-scenes-lead-to-greg-hardy-conviction/

We should have this trial as a thread alongside the World Cup to get us through June.

Spectacular testimony that should be the basis of a new blockbuster comedy starring Mark Wahlberg and Kevin Hart.

That was awesomely funny.


You tell me.....


Idiot....

LOL....

[pbmax]

I guess I see him more of the 'million dollar arm, five cent head' type. Tebone was just as you described, with most scouts thinking he was not going to be a good pro. Manziel's problem is between his ears, which is what the Pat's leaked scouting report indicates. Ryan Leaf might be a better comparison, talent, bad attitude, drugs, done.

Leaf is an interesting comparison, though Manziel did not just breakout his last year in college. If he had Leaf's body, he would have gone much earlier.

I think he could make it. I fear he might run himself out of the League. I hope he doesn't.