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i think russell is better then kapernick, but honestly, if either of those teams lose their QB that team is gonnabe just fineOriginally posted by Bretsky View PostDidn't you just note your IQ was high ? Now you refer to Russeel Wilson as average ?
And it's hard for me to call Kap average until he stops making us his bitches....and even then...if you are the GM it'd be dam tough to make the call to let him go.
To me, Alex Smith...that is the difficult one. Teams need to pay Kapernick and Wilson
sure, he's looked like a HOFer against us, but thats because our defense is a joke. against everyone else in the NFL is just looks "ok"
i wouldn't even call him a top 10 QB right now. but maybe like PB said, it could just be all fluff
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That's not true. I hate him because he keeps beating us. And for the hat.Originally posted by commentEveryone not in in San Fransisco secretly hoping for a fluff deal. People seem to hate this dude for no apparent reason. Oddly enough, no one seemed to care when humanlife failure Cutler got an obscene guaranteed contract."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I LOLed at that one. Colt McCoy - LOL. I think Will Tukuafu is the emergency...Originally posted by red View Posti think russell is better then kapernick, but honestly, if either of those teams lose their QB that team is gonnabe just fine
Tarvaris Jackson = Washed up; Terrelle Pryor - never say never, I suppose..."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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In response to our item suggesting that the Colin Kaepernick deal, trumpeted as being worth "up to" $126 million with $61 million guaranteed contains plenty of fluff, a league source with knowledge of the deal sent the details to PFT, and multiple other sources have chimed in on the contents of the…
Only $13 mil guaranteed as of now. Base salaries in future years do not becomes fully guaranteed until April 1 of that year (otherwise guaranteed for injury only). Not only gives them time in offseason to determine his health, but also happens after FA starts, which gives them a lot of leverage.
De-escalator can remove $12 million of deal $2 mil/year in each of the last 8 years. The threshold for stopping the de-escalator is 80% of snaps (mainly healthy starter) or a Super Bowl visit or All Pro (1st or 2nd team). There are also large roster bonuses.
Very little of this deal is guaranteed, but for the relief of Packer fans, if he is playing, its costing the 49ers more. For a contract with a ridiculous headline number, its very team friendly. I think its odd his agents let him sign it since it runs for seven years. He is never in the drivers seat.Last edited by pbmax; 06-05-2014, 09:58 AM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Signing bonus was $12 mil+ over six extension years. So max accrued cost year to year for cap purposes is $2 mil (might be less if they prorate over extension PLUS this year). Base in 2015 is $12.4 mil.Originally posted by deake View PostSo this year its cap friendly and next year it costs them 20 mil?
So his cap number in '15 will be well under $20 mil.Last edited by pbmax; 06-05-2014, 09:59 AM.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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Seems very team friendly. I'd venture that if he had enough confidence, he should've done what Flacco did, bet on himself and go into the last year of his contract rather than sign this.Originally posted by Rastak View PostAfter reading the details 49ers got a decent deal on that contract. If he declines at all he's out with not that much of an impact. If he gets hurt his numbers start dropping with the de-escalator.
The 2M de-escalators are particularly onerous - he loses 2M/year if he doesn't get named all-pro (he hasn't been yet) or the team goes to the SB. So unless the planets really align, kiss that good-bye. They also didn't touch his base for the coming season, it's still at 645K.
I think the worst part of the deal for him, however, is the injury guarantee that converts to a full guarantee April 1st - after FA has already started! The 49ers could cut him loose any year, including after the 2014 season, with minimal cap hit, <10M starting after the 2014 season.--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Or if he plays less than 80% of the snaps. That's the easiest one to hit to avoid the de-escalators.Originally posted by Guiness View PostSeems very team friendly. I'd venture that if he had enough confidence, he should've done what Flacco did, bet on himself and go into the last year of his contract rather than sign this.
The 2M de-escalators are particularly onerous - he loses 2M/year if he doesn't get named all-pro (he hasn't been yet) or the team goes to the SB. So unless the planets really align, kiss that good-bye. They also didn't touch his base for the coming season, it's still at 645K.
I think the worst part of the deal for him, however, is the injury guarantee that converts to a full guarantee April 1st - after FA has already started! The 49ers could cut him loose any year, including after the 2014 season, with minimal cap hit, <10M starting after the 2014 season.No longer the member of any fan clubs. I'm tired of jinxing players out of the league and into obscurity.
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2015 cap number, assuming he plays all the games but the 2M de-escalator kicks in, would be:Originally posted by pbmax View PostSigning bonus was $12 mil+ over six extension years. So max accrued cost year to year for cap purposes is $2 mil (might be less if they prorate over extension PLUS this year). Base in 2015 is $12.4 mil.
So his cap number in '15 will be well under $20 mil.
12.4(base) + 2.05(signing bonus) + 2(game day bonuses) + .4 (workout bonus)= 16.85M--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Nope. He has to play 80% AND one of the other two choices have to occur. From PFTOriginally posted by Smidgeon View PostOr if he plays less than 80% of the snaps. That's the easiest one to hit to avoid the de-escalators.
The only good part of it for him is if he stops the de-escalator once, the rest going forward become guaranteed. What is not clear is if they are fully guaranteed, or just get rolled into his base which is not fully guaranteed until Apr 1 of each year.Kaepernick can halt the de-escalation by taking, in any year of the deal, 80 percent of the snaps and if: (1) the 49ers appear in the Super Bowl; or (2) Kaepernick is named a first-team or second-team All-Pro.
Something else I just noticed - he didn't get the 2M in game day bonuses for the 2014 season! His agent is worse than Master P!
If, for some reason, the 49ers wanted to cut him lose next spring, they will have paid him 13M and owe him nothing more!--
Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...
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Obviously C K isn't paying attention.Originally posted by Guiness View PostNope. He has to play 80% AND one of the other two choices have to occur. From PFT
The only good part of it for him is if he stops the de-escalator once, the rest going forward become guaranteed. What is not clear is if they are fully guaranteed, or just get rolled into his base which is not fully guaranteed until Apr 1 of each year.
Something else I just noticed - he didn't get the 2M in game day bonuses for the 2014 season! His agent is worse than Master P!
If, for some reason, the 49ers wanted to cut him lose next spring, they will have paid him 13M and owe him nothing more!
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** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau
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The first report by PFT did frame that de-escaator condition as Guiness has it.
Kaepernick can halt the de-escalation by taking, in any year of the deal, 80 percent of the snaps and if: (1) the 49ers appear in the Super Bowl; or (2) Kaepernick is named a first-team or second-team All-Pro.
In response to our item suggesting that the Colin Kaepernick deal, trumpeted as being worth "up to" $126 million with $61 million guaranteed contains plenty of fluff, a league source with knowledge of the deal sent the details to PFT, and multiple other sources have chimed in on the contents of the…
But the next article makes it an OR condition:
That’s a cap number of $18.35 million, which will drop to $16.35 million if he doesn’t take at least 80 percent of the snaps or if he fails to lead the team to the Super Bowl or to be named first-team or second-team AP All-Pro in 2014 and 2015.
After signing, with an old-old-school quill pen, his new contract, 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick explained to the media that he agreed to the deal as designed in order to help the team sign and keep other players.
The second story is newer, and both written by Florio. Someone should email him. If its the AND condition, that is simply nuts.Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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