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  • #61
    My impression watching Kaepernick was that his arm arm is about as strong as anyone's. I thought he threw with more velocity than AR, but that's just this fans perception. Clearly his legs are better. Physically, he's everything you want. I also really liked his throwing motion, release and he seems to have consistent footwork. Harbaugh seems to coach him well. His decision making and game command seem suspect to me. It's the only real flaw I see in his game, but it's a pretty big flaw.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell View Post
      My impression watching Kaepernick was that his arm arm is about as strong as anyone's. I thought he threw with more velocity than AR, but that's just this fans perception. Clearly his legs are better. Physically, he's everything you want. I also really liked his throwing motion, release and he seems to have consistent footwork. Harbaugh seems to coach him well. His decision making and game command seem suspect to me. It's the only real flaw I see in his game, but it's a pretty big flaw.
      I think his only real flaw is that he doesn't have to learn to go away from his primary or secondary read. He can either wait for someone to break free and clear or he can bail on failing pass protection.

      Its tough to lean to stand in the pocket and go through the entire progression when the pocket is collapsing because you can always make a play with your feet (and I don't think he is a one read guy). If you are CK, its not necessary to take that additional punishment. If you are Craig Morton, its mandatory.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #63
        The only problem I see with Kaeprnick is that there are 31 other team to play besides the packers. He looks very pedestrian against anyone but us.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
          I agree he'll never be considered one of the best passers in the game but I think you are selling him short as a thrower. Hes for sure has one of the top 5 arms in the game (Cutler, Big Ben, Stafford, Kaepernick, Flacco). Also found it interesting his numbers are fairly similar to Flaccos who also received a big deal last season.
          Yeah he's a good football player for sure. I probably overstated things a bit just to make an argument. I liked Kaep better than all the other QB's coming out that year because he's such a dual threat. Don't remember the whole lot but it included guys like Ponder, Gabbert, and Locker who were drafted ahead of him I believe.

          That said, Ryan Leaf and Jeff George had cannons too so it obviously will take more than arm strength for Kaep to excel as a thrower. He's not there yet but the Niners are banking on him being the man and that's all that really counts for him.

          If/when that 4.5 speed becomes 4.7+ he's gonna have to be better as a passer regardless of his tools, tats and biceps.

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          • #65
            Newton and Dalton were the other two QB's selected ahead of Kaep in 2011. I'd say the Bengals and Panthers are happy with their picks but the Vikes, Titans and Jags would like to have a redo.

            QB's that can run and pass offer a ton of value but it can be such a fleeting benefit I'd have a tough time placing the future of my franchise on the legs of a QB too.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by vince View Post
              Newton and Dalton were the other two QB's selected ahead of Kaep in 2011. I'd say the Bengals and Panthers are happy with their picks but the Vikes, Titans and Jags would like to have a redo.

              QB's that can run and pass offer a ton of value but it can be such a fleeting benefit I'd have a tough time placing the future of my franchise on the legs of a QB too.
              Vikings and Jags for sure, but I don't think the Titans are that unhappy, are they? Although durability has certainly been a problem.
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              • #67
                Originally posted by vince View Post
                Newton and Dalton were the other two QB's selected ahead of Kaep in 2011. I'd say the Bengals and Panthers are happy with their picks but the Vikes, Titans and Jags would like to have a redo.

                QB's that can run and pass offer a ton of value but it can be such a fleeting benefit I'd have a tough time placing the future of my franchise on the legs of a QB too.
                Bengals imo would take Kaep over Dalton if they were given the chance to redraft. 1 TD and 6 INTs in the postseason for Mr Dalton with a 0-3 record.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                  Vikings and Jags for sure, but I don't think the Titans are that unhappy, are they? Although durability has certainly been a problem.
                  I would be unhappy if I drafted Locker with a top ten pick, he is athletic but he has never put up big numbers in college or the NFL and he can't stay on the field.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Brandon494 View Post
                    I would be unhappy if I drafted Locker with a top ten pick, he is athletic but he has never put up big numbers in college or the NFL and he can't stay on the field.
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