Unofficial World Cup Thread de 2014

[Guiness]

Not saying there won't be problems, but they claim to have plans to cool off the stadiums.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_an...World_Cup_bids

I figured that was going to be part of the answer, some sort of A/C.

[pbmax]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10558242/Qatar-2022-World-Cup-will-not-be-held-in-summer-says-Fifa-chief-who-targets-dates-between-Nov-15-and-Jan-15.html

Jerome Valcke took to French radio to reveal football’s biggest event was likely to be held in Qatar “sometime between November 15 and January 15”, for the first time raising the prospect of it spanning two years.

Jim Boyce was clearly riled by the comments, declaring himself “completely shocked” by them and insisting he and his fellow Fifa executive committee members would decide at the end of this year or the beginning of next when the 2022 World Cup would be played.

Fifa attempted to minimise the impact of Valcke’s pronouncement, which was merely the latest either from him or president Sepp Blatter paving the way for the tournament to be moved to the end of 2022 to avoid Qatar’s extreme summer temperatures.

[Joemailman]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

In 2014, Qatar released dress code decree which particularly to remind tourists how to dress properly. Female tourists are not allowed to wear leggings, miniskirts, sleeveless dresses and short or tight clothing in public. Men are not allowed to wear only shorts and singlets.[59]

[Guiness]

I don't think it was a makeup call as much as Robben flailing every time he lost control of a contested ball. He isn't just some run of the mill flopper or drama queen, he is a professional at angling to get a call.

In a stunning display of formerly absent athleticism, he was able to JUMP over an outstretched leg in the box when he actually had control of the ball an take a shot on goal.

Was that really 100% a flop by Robben's? I've looked at a couple of replay angles, and it looks like the defender stepped on his foot causing him to trip up. This article that talks about it being a dive but it looks pretty legit to me. They say minimal contact, but the defender's right foot is clearly on top of his. He was cutting and trying to accelerate, and had his foot stepped on. It's more than possible he legitimately went down

Looking at that angle, I think he might've embellished it a bit, but it does seem like the defender caused him to go down. (link fixed)

http://www.businessinsider.com/arjen-robben-dives-2014-6

[denverYooper]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar

Damn. Singlets are just about the only thing I own.

[pbmax]

Was Robben's flop that bad? I've looked at a couple of replay angles, and it looks like the defender stepped on his foot causing him to trip up. This article that talks about it being a dive but it looks pretty legit to me. They say minimal contact, but the defender's right foot is clearly on top of his. That's a trip.

Looking at that angle, I think he might've embellished it a bit, but it does seem like the defender caused him to go down.
https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/B6755...6bade.0.4.1442 652084490161002.mp4?versionId=aseAYGvAvNpxUu.2tlVB acilLrfaYuEF

He was flailing and falling every time he lost control of the ball, it wasn't just on that play. Its possible that step on his foot caused him to stumble, but he threw his other leg into the air like it was the one that was hit and catapulted towards the beach.

[Guiness]

In 2014, Qatar released dress code decree which particularly to remind tourists how to dress properly. Female tourists are not allowed to wear leggings, miniskirts, sleeveless dresses and short or tight clothing in public. Men are not allowed to wear only shorts and singlets.[59]

Ya, that's awesome.

IMO that isn't acceptable at all. FIFA's so bloody corrupt they can't see past the big pile of money they were given for this. They really should've gotten some concessions out of the government, but it looks like they didn't.

And it's a hardship on the rest of us who are just watching on TV too! Is it really a world cup without audience shots of Brazilian women?

[Guiness]

He was flailing and falling every time he lost control of the ball, it wasn't just on that play. Its possible that step on his foot caused him to stumble, but he threw his other leg into the air like it was the one that was hit and catapulted towards the beach.

I don't know about the rest of the game, but taking that play in isolation, I'd say the step made him stumble or go down. I'm sure you've seen what happens when someone who's running gets a foot stepped on. Despite how little actual 'contact' there is, the person inevitably goes flying.

He might've been able to stay on his feet, but:
1. I wouldn't say for sure
2. There's no advantage to him doing so

I've posted a few times in this thread about how much the diving is pissing me off, just saying I don't think this is an example, although I seem to be in the minority. It would be a pretty major rule change, but I think it would be a good thing for FIFA to add an 'unsportsmanlike' or some other sort of penalty when referees see clear dives. As I mentioned earlier, wouldn't be a bad idea for them to add a second referee on the pitch, especially for games at this level. Would have the added bonus of them making conflicting calls and occasionally coming to fisticuffs while the players stand by deciding what to do!

[pbmax]

Can't get the Vine link to work, but I watched this a few times:

There is contact, but its not cynical and was an actual attempt to play the ball. Its his left foot, which was already planted, and he is stepping forward with his right. his right never comes down though, as after he realizes there is contact, he shoots his right leg out as he falls to the ground. While I can certainly envision someone tripping because their foot is stepped on, this looks at a minimum enhanced, and possibly just shy of imaginary.

If it were entirely natural, I would expect him to continue forward with his right leg to catch the fall. He doesn't and that is the other half of this that looks invented.

But its still not my main point. Whenever a situation like this presented itself (loss of control of ball) he went down, foul or no. If he kept possession and had an opportunity, he somehow stayed upright. I think he earned this not just as a make-up call, but because of all the other flopping made it look like Mexico was being more physical than they were.

[Guiness]

Can't get the Vine link to work, but I watched this a few times:

Dead link. I fixed the one in my post above

http://www.businessinsider.com/arjen-robben-dives-2014-6

[red]

there you go, a greek barely caught the foot of a costa rican (just like robben) at the edge of the box,the costa rican player flew to the ground just like robben. the english TV commentators called it a great call because there was contact

on the foul against robben, there was contact, no matter how small it was, you can't make contact. the mexican commentator or his companion, where the ones to bring up it being a flop

its all in the eye of the beholder

[Teamcheez1]

I don't know about the rest of the game, but taking that play in isolation, I'd say the step made him stumble or go down. I'm sure you've seen what happens when someone who's running gets a foot stepped on. Despite how little actual 'contact' there is, the person inevitably goes flying.

He might've been able to stay on his feet, but:
1. I wouldn't say for sure
2. There's no advantage to him doing so

I've posted a few times in this thread about how much the diving is pissing me off, just saying I don't think this is an example, although I seem to be in the minority. It would be a pretty major rule change, but I think it would be a good thing for FIFA to add an 'unsportsmanlike' or some other sort of penalty when referees see clear dives. As I mentioned earlier, wouldn't be a bad idea for them to add a second referee on the pitch, especially for games at this level. Would have the added bonus of them making conflicting calls and occasionally coming to fisticuffs while the players stand by deciding what to do!

The FIFA rules allow the referee to give a yellow card on a clear dive.

[red]

what the hell was that goal? guy barely got a hold of the ball, and the thing just trickled in from way the hell out there, and the greek defender and goalie just sit there and watch it go in

now a player on the bench just got a yellow card. lol

reminds me of my old high school basketball days when me and my fellow end of benchers figured out we could still get our names in the papers box scores for getting technical fouls. FYI, refs don't like being called fuckwads or dickheads. they also don't like you discussing how tight their daughters assholes may or may not be

[pbmax]

Dear American Continent Fútbol Sides;

Stop playing with no offense with a 1 goal lead and 40 minutes left. It ain't working.


Thank you,

pbmax

cc: Costa Rica, Mexico

[pbmax]

what the hell was that goal? guy barely got a hold of the ball, and the thing just trickled in from way the hell out there, and the greek defender and goalie just sit there and watch it go in

now a player on the bench just got a yellow card. lol

reminds me of my old high school basketball days when me and my fellow end of benchers figured out we could still get our names in the papers box scores for getting technical fouls. FYI, refs don't like being called fuckwads or dickheads. they also don't like you discussing how tight their daughters assholes may or may not be

I thought some contact is allowed as long as its an honest/successful tackle of the ball? They don't call all contact on other contested plays, or it different in the goal box?