Party with Beiber!

[Guiness]

Speaking of trolling, Manziel is just toying with Cleveland now. Partying with Bieber? That's akin to jumping the shark all by itself, but add in Floyd Mayweather and wow, just wow.



Last week Manziel said

"I want to wake up with a week and not have my name going through something."

Here's a hint: Bieber is maybe not the guy to spend time with if you want to stay out of the headlines! Just ask Keyshawn Johnson, he'll tell you!
Browns management have to be shaking their head at this point.

[Brandon494]

Wow a celebrity hanging out with other celebrities.....BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Seriously people need to get off Manziel's D and let this kid live his damn life. There are far more important things to worry about then what Manziel is doing in his off time, people are just jealous of his life style so they hate on him.

[Zool]

Wow a celebrity hanging out with other celebrities.....BREAKING NEWS!!!!

Seriously people need to get off Manziel's D and let this kid live his damn life. There are far more important things to worry about then what Manziel is doing in his off time, people are just jealous of his life style so they hate on him.

The more stupid shit he says to the media, the more people are going to criticize. Maybe they paraphrase, but he comes off as a complete tool in the interviews I've read. All he needs to do is shut his mouth.

[Brandon494]

The more stupid shit he says to the media, the more people are going to criticize. Maybe they paraphrase, but he comes off as a complete tool in the interviews I've read. All he needs to do is shut his mouth.

What are some things stupid things hes said that have upset you? People hate on him because hes cocky instead of humble but the dude isn't arrogant cocky.

[Cheesehead Craig]

What are some things stupid things hes said that have upset you? People hate on him because hes cocky instead of humble but the dude isn't arrogant cocky.

What do he suppose to say?

[Brandon494]

What do he suppose to say?

Exactly lmao

Also every time I see your avatar I think of this video...

[Zool]

What are some things stupid things hes said that have upset you? People hate on him because hes cocky instead of humble but the dude isn't arrogant cocky.

This is my point. Stop talking. Every time he comes in Sportscenter now, I change the channel. It's Tebow all over again. I could give 2 shits what they do or say outside of a football field. They draw this attention themselves.

Johnny Manziel: 'I'm not going to change for anybody, I don't think I'm doing anything wrong'. If that were true, he wouldn't feel the need to address the media at all. He comes off as an insecure prick. But the more he talks, the more people talk about him. And that's probably what he wants.

Joe Montana gave him the advice to lay low, and he followed up by saying he'll do what he wants? He just keeps coming off as stupid. Maybe I'm old school, but Barry Sanders did it right. STFU and play football. You're not a beautiful misunderstood snowflake.

[hoosier]

Hanging out with Justin Bieber should in itself be cause for demotion or suspension.

[pbmax]

Florio today tried to parlay the Bieber party into a prediction that Manziel was be in danger of a child enticement charge.

Follow along here:

A source (cannot imagine who this was) says that people around Bieber are notorious for bringing around underage girls to parties. This could lead to problems.

Don't believe him?

He asked you to Google Mark Chmura.

[Joemailman]

So your starting QB is a Belieber. That should help him take control of the huddle.

[Guiness]

Florio today tried to parlay the Bieber party into a prediction that Manziel was be in danger of a child enticement charge.

Follow along here:

A source (cannot imagine who this was) says that people around Bieber are notorious for bringing around underage girls to parties. This could lead to problems.

Don't believe him?

He asked you to Google Mark Chmura.

The Chmura thing was a left turn, to be sure. Bieber does have a history of underage drinking, trying to get underage friends into bars, etc, but to make the association that Manziel could land himself in legal trouble because of it is a reach. On the other hand, being in the company of Mayweather, who is a known big stakes gambler? The shield might not be happy about that.

I was referring more to the notoriety of and headline grabber that Bieber is. Manziel does seem to be going for the celebrity lifestyle. Why should the Browns be concerned? Because he's QB, and does not have the focus necessary to succeed. You can say it's his own time, but what he needs to be doing is sitting at home studying the playbook. No, he can't live his damn life, he's getting paid a few million/year to play football, he needs to be fully dedicated or he won't get anywhere. Maybe a year or two of running around putting up some decent numbers, like a Vince Young, but then he'll be gone.

[pbmax]

I think its mainly a question of optics and public knowledge.

If Russell Wilson or Scott Tolzien are out or doing an ad, no one questions them because of the track record of one (RW) and the very public work ethic stories of them both.

Manziel is only known for public carousing. Like Flynn said about his time in Seattle, he may spend as much time working on his game as Wilson, but since that is not the dominant public story, no one thinks he is.

The Browns are worried because whatever time Manziel needs to become proficient will be accompanied by an even shorter honeymoon period, if any at all.

[Patler]

Brings up memories of a young Joe Namath (for his off-time exploits).

[QBME]

Brings up memories of a young Joe Namath (for his off-time exploits).

Great comparison. I'd like to see the kid do really well. Shake things up. Butt heads with Goodell like Broadway Joe did with Rozelle.

[pbmax]

Kenny Stabler used to study the playbook by the light of the jukebox.