Official 2014 Packers Training Camp Thread

[Brandon494]

Janis did have a drop. It's the first I remember. White had another drop after dropping two yesterday. He may be playing himself off the roster--especially with guys like Neal and Rolle making pushes at other positions.

White has never been good to begin with, I don't know what you ever saw in him. Janis did have a drop in the 2 minute drill I heard but that is the first negative comment I've heard about him. He also took snaps today at punt returner so hopefully we'll see him in the game later this week.

[pbmax]

White has never been good to begin with, I don't know what you ever saw in him. Janis did have a drop in the 2 minute drill I heard but that is the first negative comment I've heard about him. He also took snaps today at punt returner so hopefully we'll see him in the game later this week.

Now that is a punt returner I am excited about. Size and speed.

[HarveyWallbangers]

White has never been good to begin with, I don't know what you ever saw in him. Janis did have a drop in the 2 minute drill I heard but that is the first negative comment I've heard about him. He also took snaps today at punt returner so hopefully we'll see him in the game later this week.

White has some things to like about him. With some added strength and the loss of Abby (a slot guy) I thought he had the best chance of group fighting for a spot. But he's not good enough to overcome drops every practice. I wouldn't write him off, but I'm beginning to think they'll keep 5 (with Janis). Of the rest I think I like the potential of Kevin Dorsey the most. For a guy they just signed Sheppard didn't look half bad either.

[HarveyWallbangers]

About the time I got down on a guy I read an article like this (I missed it from earlier in the week). The writer speculates that the 5th spot will come down to Myles White vs. Kevin Dorsey. Of course, that was before White started dropping balls and Janis started making plays every day.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2014/08/08/white-dorsey-lead-battle-packers-th-wr-spot/13803211/

[bobblehead]

He's a bit faster than Hodge. Bradford timed at 4.71 at the combine. Hodge timed at 4.76. Speed isn't the only thing. Desmond Bishop ran 4.81. Physically, outside of a bit faster 40 time his measurables are nearly identical to Sam Barrington. In converse, you could say Bradford doesn't have the necessary length to play OLB in a 3-4. 6'1" is decent size for a 3-4 ILB but short for a 3-4 OLB. It was a small sample size, but his 8 snaps vs. Tennessee were not good. He got no pressure in 1v1 situations. I've also read that he's struggled in pass rush drills. I think his best attributes are similar to what Bishop brought to the table.

The 40 is so overrated. Bishop was about .5 seconds faster diagnosing things than most ILB, so his effective 40 time was 4.31...dude flew.

[ThunderDan]

The 40 is so overrated. Bishop was about .5 seconds faster diagnosing things than most ILB, so his effective 40 time was 4.31...dude flew.

Not so fast. I don't think Bishop could diagnose anything. He just saw a gap and shot it. It didn't matter if that was his assignment or that was where the play was going. I don't know how many times he shot the wrong gap and let the other team gash a 20+ yard run.

It wasn't until his last season or two that he slowed down and actually played his assignment and then the Packers could afford to put him in for extended periods.

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Wednesday, August 13th, 2014

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
#Packers DNPs:
R. Neal - knee
Lyerla - knee
Thomas - knee
B. Jones - unknown (new)
Barclay - knee
Abbrederis - knee
Guion - hamstring

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Davante Adams (wrist) has returned to practice.

GPS TOLD HIM TO GET BACK OUT THERE

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Also back at practice is ILB Joe Thomas. RB Rajion Neal is still out.

HE HAD A LEG. NOW HIS LEG BELONGS TO WINSTON MOSS.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Janis inside working with top offensive units while Dorsey and Harper are outside working with the scout team. That says something.

YES. UPCOMING INJURY REPORT.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Lattimore working with Hawk inside with first defense. I would expect Barrington to get a shot there too.

JONES IS HURT YOU H8TERS.

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Sorry, I said Thomas is back. I was looking at Barrington. I need to clean my glasses.

OK, SO HE IS NOT BACK

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Look out, Bryan Bulaga just drive Doughty into the dirt during half line. Next play, does the same to Hubbard.

SOUNDS LIKE THE MOUNTAIN'S WORKOUT REGIME

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
And Jake Stoneburner has his say. Might've been his best block of camp, pancakes his man.

NOW IF THE TISSUE GRAFTS FROM JACKIE HARRIS' HANDS TAKE ...

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Richard Rodgers solid again this drill. Really controlled Bradford to clear one lane.

IF THE TITANS GAME WAS ANY INDICATION, THIS TEST WAS RIGGED

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Rodgers is playing QB for the scout team. Makes me wonder how much he's going to play vs. St. Louis.

BUT BOYKIN, ADAMS AND RRODGERS WOULD REALLY LIKE TO KNOW WHAT AN NFL PASS LOOKS LIKE DURING A GAME TOM

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Run drill taking place is as physical as anything they've done this camp. Lots of pads smacking.

ONE INJURY AND I BET TED CANCELS IT

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Corey Linsley having his moments, too. Gets underneath Pennel, coach all over Pennel for getting too high.

PENNEL! ARE YOU HIGH? HE IS FROM OHIO STATE, JUST TELL HIM YOUR FROM THE SEC AND HE'LL FOLD!

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Fight came after Lacy gashed the defense for a sizable gain.

ARE LACY AND RODGERS ON THE SCOUT TEAM? I THINK TOM IS CONFUSED OR THE DRILL CHANGED. I HOPE.

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
That was no boys-will-be-boys scuffle there. Lattimore and Sitton get into it, entire O and D jump in.

YES CERTAINLY. WE AWAIT THE POLICE REPOT ON CASUALTIES.

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Now Winston Moss and James Campen up in each other's face screaming.

WHERE IS RED TO TELL US THE COACHES CAN'T LIGHT A FIRE UNDER SOMEONE (THEMSELVES)?

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Easily the best fight of camp. For a guy who hardly talks off the field, Lattimore loves talking on it. Must've got under Sitton's skin.

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 1h
Wildest drill of camp ends, half-line run drill. Huge fight O vs D in big pile, Campen n Moss jawing, A Rodgers n Sirton barking at D

BACKUP LB AND THE STARTING QB. YAWN. LET ME KNOW IF MATTHEWS OR PEPPERS TEES OFF ON LANG OR SITTON.

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Even Derek Sherrod joined the fun. He was central to that last mosh pit.

NOT A GOOD RISK MANAGEMENT DECISION.

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Janis with a diving catch on an out route. When doesn't this guy make a great catch?

WHEN HE HAS SHINGLES

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
When Jeff Janis finds consistency, he's going to be a player. Full extension layout catch in 11-on-11 after two drops in individual drills.

BEST JOE MORGAN REFERENCE OF THE DAY

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 1h
Good concentration from Gillett. Hayward tips up pass in double coverage, catches the deflection

HHCD WAS IN COVERAGE ON THIS AS WELL. MUST BE NEW TO HAYWARD TO HAVE SAFETY HELP

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
In first dime, Burnett and Clinton-Dix at safety, Tramon and Hyde in the slot, Shields and House outside.

WHAT!? HOW CAN YOU PLAY PASS D WITHOUT HAYWARD?

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Rodgers working with the second team O-line in red zone drill. Very unusual.

PACKERS PREPARE FOR FIRST 4 GAMES IN PRESEASON. AFTER INJURIES, THAT WILL BE THE STARTING O LINE IN GAME 3.

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 1h
Flutter ball from Rettig gets picked by Tramon on pass for Gillett

WONDER IF THIS WAS TIPPED LIKE IT WAS DURING TITAN GAME?

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Rodgers to Boykin down seam for a nice gain against No. 1 defense.

BOYKIN CAN BE THE TE

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 1h
Punt cover drill so Hyde personal protector, punt returners are Cobb, Williams, Janis

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
On the scout team, Randall Cobb, Myles White, Tramon Williams, Jeff Janis are fielding punts.

SO TELL US WHO IS ON THE 1ST TEAM PUNT COVER YOU TWO!

Wes Hodkiewicz @WesHod 1h
Morgan Burnett on first kickoff coverage

ONLY 10 MORE NAMES TO GO. IN RELATED NEWS, WHAT?!

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Janis working on KORs with DuJuan Harris, Micah Hyde and LaDRius Perkins.

IS JANIS BILLY SCHROEDER REINCARNATED? ALSO, NOTE NEW NICKNAME SILVERSTEIN GAVE TO DOC PERKINS WITH THE CAPS

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Rodgers with a quick hitter over the middle to Bostick, who has picked up his game the last week.

I GET A DEFINITE TYRONE DAVIS VIBE FROM BOSTICK

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
This 11-on-11 period included Rodgers going downfield to Nelson, just missing Boykin deep and Adams catching a crossing route from 12.

KEY TO STAYING HEALTHY: ONLY WORK WITH RODGERS

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Sean Richardson with a nice read on Tolzien. Steps in front of Gillett for an interception he would've taken back for a touchdown.

KEY TO MAKING TEAM ON DEFENSE, ALWAYS JUMP IN FOR #2 QB REPS

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Tolzien and Gillett totally screwed up on in route. Sean Richardson picks off errant throw. I believe that's his third pick of camp.

THEY DON'T ASK HOW, THEY ASK HOW MANY

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Janis and Antonio Dennard go after it after getting locked up on a block. Janis wrestles Dennard down.

JANIS JANIS JANIS!!

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Burnett has a chance for a pick laying out for ball by Flynn but can't haul it in. They need him to make that special kind of play.

I WILL SETTLE FOR HIM TO JUST MAKE THE REGULAR PLAYS AND TAKE IT FROM THERE

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Rettig with a nice shot to TE Justin Perillo, who has caught everything today.

HE IS MAD HE ISN'T IN THE POLL

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
S Ryan White,who played well against Tennessee, has dropped out with an ankle or injury. Has his shoe off and ice bag near ankle.

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Jumal Rolle on a nice roll of late. With the scout team vs No. 1 offense, he breaks up a Rodgers pass to Cobb.

I BELIEVE ITS PRONOUNCED ROLLÉ

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Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
OLB Adrian Hubbard says "Welcome To Paradise" to Scott Tolzien with an INT as @GreenDay blares. #PackersPlaylist

MIGHT WANT TO HOLD OFF ON CELEBRATORY BANDWAGON FOR TOLZIEN

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Mulumba with a nice rush on Adams. Would have been a sack in normal circumstances.

MIGHT BE FIRST MENTION OF MULUMBA ALL CAMP NOT PRECEDED BY "QUIET"

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Another scuffle, lost track of count. This one features Jarrett Bush and T.J. Lang. Two vets going at it.

MY MONEY IS ON BUSH

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1h
Matt Flynn hits Jake Stoneburner off play action for a touchdown in the back of the end zone.

TE PROBLEM SOLVED

Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Flynn to Stone Irene for short TD. Haven't seen the latter's name much here.

Jason Wilde @jasonjwilde 1h
#Tramontana RT @TomSilverstein: Flynn to Stone Irene for short TD. Haven't seen the latter's name much here.

YOU READ IT HERE FIRST. LIKE TRAMONTANA, STONE IRENE IS NOW STONEBURNER'S NICKNAME FROM SPOON

Pete Dougherty @PeteDougherty 30m
MM on why Brad Jones didn't practice: had dental procedure.

NEW GRILLE

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Tom Silverstein @TomSilverstein 1h
Don't think Tweet on FGs went through. Crosby was 4 of 6. Missed 42 and 53. Hit from 33, 44, 46 and. 54. I believe he's 41 of 45 so far.

[bobblehead]

Not so fast. I don't think Bishop could diagnose anything. He just saw a gap and shot it. It didn't matter if that was his assignment or that was where the play was going. I don't know how many times he shot the wrong gap and let the other team gash a 20+ yard run.

It wasn't until his last season or two that he slowed down and actually played his assignment and then the Packers could afford to put him in for extended periods.

I disagree. Bishop blew 2 assignments, and MM couldn't get past it. I just watched Peppers blow one assignment in 10 plays. Think he rides the pine for 2 years? And yes, I am convinced his assignment wasn't to push upfield to the point he couldn't effectively contain. Pushing so far upfield that the RB has a monster lane to run through is not called keeping containment even if he technically ran inside of you.

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I disagree. Bishop blew 2 assignments, and MM couldn't get past it. I just watched Peppers blow one assignment in 10 plays. Think he rides the pine for 2 years? And yes, I am convinced his assignment wasn't to push upfield to the point he couldn't effectively contain. Pushing so far upfield that the RB has a monster lane to run through is not called keeping containment even if he technically ran inside of you.

Normally there is a responsibility to stay parallel to the LOS (or as Banaczyk said in the Press Gazette, not to turn away from the sideline). He also has to squeeze a gap with the guy next to him. Whether it was Daniels or Jones, he was moving away from both but wasn't tracking the RB at the time.