Official 2014 Packers Training Camp Thread

[Joemailman]

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
Nate Palmer and Andy Mulumba are still on first special teams units, a telling sign this point of camp.

Does this mean Bradford's spot in jeopardy?

[QBME]

Does this mean Bradford's spot in jeopardy?

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
Carl Bradford playing a bunch this practice. Guessing he gets a long look tomorrow. Big week for the fourth-round pick.


Sounds like it's time to step up.

[texaspackerbacker]

It does say a lot, but not in the way you think. From the JS posts it sound like Colt's injury was significant enough that they would have trouble reaching an injury settlement, with Colt's people arguing for a full year of IR. So the Packers were pretty much on the hook for the 300K for the year. So the next question is why waive Colt now instead of waiting a few days and just putting him directly on IR? One possible reason is that they needed the roster spot due to Bostic's injury. However given how soon cut downs are coming and the limited number of practices before the next game, that seems dubious. We'll know for certain if they have a new person in camp today. The other reason would be that they are not all that thrilled with Colt and hoped that another team would pay his IR salary for this year. Didn't happen, so he's on IR and the Packers can look at him again next year.

$300,000 is chump change for an NFL team. If he was good enough to take a chance on this season, paying that small amount is certainly worthwhile to see what he can do next season. They need to make sure he keeps his nose clean and hopefully reports in football shape next off-season. For now, his injury is a slight blessing, as it makes cut decisions less difficult.

[Smidgeon]

It does say a lot, but not in the way you think. From the JS posts it sound like Colt's injury was significant enough that they would have trouble reaching an injury settlement, with Colt's people arguing for a full year of IR. So the Packers were pretty much on the hook for the 300K for the year. So the next question is why waive Colt now instead of waiting a few days and just putting him directly on IR? One possible reason is that they needed the roster spot due to Bostic's injury. However given how soon cut downs are coming and the limited number of practices before the next game, that seems dubious. We'll know for certain if they have a new person in camp today. The other reason would be that they are not all that thrilled with Colt and hoped that another team would pay his IR salary for this year. Didn't happen, so he's on IR and the Packers can look at him again next year.

Vic stated that waived/injured and reverting to IR means that the player doesn't count against the team's in-season 90 man limit. If you stash him directly to IR, they do count.

[MadScientist]

$300,000 is chump change for an NFL team. If he was good enough to take a chance on this season, paying that small amount is certainly worthwhile to see what he can do next season. They need to make sure he keeps his nose clean and hopefully reports in football shape next off-season. For now, his injury is a slight blessing, as it makes cut decisions less difficult.

It may be chump change, but if you find a way to save $300K, you try to do so. I think the Packers were dubious about keeping him and figured if someone else wanted to pay him the 300K for being on IR, let them. Personally I'd agree with you that if they get him healthy, build him back into proper football shape and get his brain NFL ready in the meetings he will attend, then things can turn out well for the Packers. The misguided leap shows he has some athletic ability, so I'm for having another look next year.

Vic stated that waived/injured and reverting to IR means that the player doesn't count against the team's in-season 90 man limit. If you stash him directly to IR, they do count.

During the season it won't be much of an issue, how many times have they ever been even close. Not even the packers have 27 on IR. Now it can be an issue, but they didn't add a guy.

[bobblehead]

$300,000 is chump change for an NFL team. If he was good enough to take a chance on this season, paying that small amount is certainly worthwhile to see what he can do next season. They need to make sure he keeps his nose clean and hopefully reports in football shape next off-season. For now, his injury is a slight blessing, as it makes cut decisions less difficult.

do you want to give him a vested year to sit on IR though? We are developing him, which means that it will take a bit to get some return. If he blossoms just in time to get paid, its a waste of time. I think they put him on practice squad and don't let him get that cheap year on the books doing nothing.

[Teamcheez1]

I read two points across the web:

1. NFL rules prohibit teams from releasing a player without an injury settlement. The Packers then would have to wait six weeks after the settlement expired to bring him back.
2. They did the same thing with Kevin Dorsey last year, so it's not that uncommon.

[smuggler]

If I recall correctly, you can IR a player outright only after cutting down to 65.

[Fritz]

Tyler Dunne
@TyDunne
Carl Bradford playing a bunch this practice. Guessing he gets a long look tomorrow. Big week for the fourth-round pick.


Sounds like it's time to step up.

It's been weird, these newbie draft picks. Kylie Thornton sounds like a long-term project, and unless the Pack keeps seven d-linemen, either he or Pennel will probably have to go. Bradford has been very "meh," Janis has been a pleasant surprise, the kid who used to play point guard (Goodson) sounds promising but raw, and of course Rodgers will stay, as will Linsley, Adams, and Clittin'-Dix.

Would the Pack cut a third and a fourth rounder? That'd be weird. I'd say Thornton has shown more promise. Bradford seems to be, so far, a JAG.

As for the OLB's, I don't see why Nate Palmer is going to be around. He's been like Caspar the Friendly Ghost - invisible - as far as I can tell. I think the writers are generating the Nick Perry controversy. He's better than Mulumba, I think, so why not keep him around to see what he can do this year? It's not like Julius Peppers is going to play here for four or five years, and Neal is on, what, a two year deal?

[Joemailman]

Bostick has slight fracture of fibula. Likely to miss opener. http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packe...272256301.html

[bobblehead]

Sorry Bobble, it is IR for Lyerla:

http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...vers/14357109/

Don't be sorry. Was just my opinion. I am surprised that they thought someone would actually poach him.

[Carolina_Packer]

$300,000 is chump change for an NFL team. If he was good enough to take a chance on this season, paying that small amount is certainly worthwhile to see what he can do next season. They need to make sure he keeps his nose clean and hopefully reports in football shape next off-season. For now, his injury is a slight blessing, as it makes cut decisions less difficult.

Totally agree TPB. It's low risk, possible high reward. If he was still acting up now, or does so between now and next TC, cut him. If he keeps his act together, gets in the class room/weight room and stays out of his own way, he could meet his potential, and that's a good thing.

[run pMc]

It's been weird, these newbie draft picks. Kylie Thornton sounds like a long-term project, and unless the Pack keeps seven d-linemen, either he or Pennel will probably have to go. Bradford has been very "meh," Janis has been a pleasant surprise, the kid who used to play point guard (Goodson) sounds promising but raw, and of course Rodgers will stay, as will Linsley, Adams, and Clittin'-Dix.

Would the Pack cut a third and a fourth rounder? That'd be weird. I'd say Thornton has shown more promise. Bradford seems to be, so far, a JAG.

As for the OLB's, I don't see why Nate Palmer is going to be around. He's been like Caspar the Friendly Ghost - invisible - as far as I can tell. I think the writers are generating the Nick Perry controversy. He's better than Mulumba, I think, so why not keep him around to see what he can do this year? It's not like Julius Peppers is going to play here for four or five years, and Neal is on, what, a two year deal?

Cory Rogers would be the precedent -- IIRC he was a R4 pick that didn't make the cut. Like you, I haven't heard a lot about Palmer and I figured he was likely gone, but if he's on the top teams units that changes things, and probably means they will go thinner at another position, say ILB or TE. I don't see them cutting Perry, he is a better athlete but hasn't been as healthy as Mulumba. When Perry has been healthy he's flashed, his contract isn't onerous and he'll be a situational player. I think he's worth keeping but don't think he's the long term answer at OLB opposite Clay. I think all this means Bradford has to step up big time or he's gone. It's a numbers game and there are other players who have played better at OLB thus far.

With his size and production to date I'd think Bradford will probably not get claimed by another team and GB might be able to sign him to the PS. I'm with many here who think Bradford might be better at ILB, but that's a big switch from college DE. Kind of a weird pick by TT.

Thornton is another pick that people wondered about. Pennel has shown more and they won't be able to sneak him onto the PS, Boyd is a year ahead, and Datone, Raji and Daniels are your starters. Trading Worthy helps, but I think they'd like to keep him and have Trgovac develop him.

Don't know that Goodson makes it, even if he's a draft pick. Seems like they like Rolle and I think they are both competing for a CB spot that doesn't exist on the 53.

This is a deep team that if healthy is a legitimate contender. Not a lot of spots up for grabs.

[texaspackerbacker]

do you want to give him a vested year to sit on IR though? We are developing him, which means that it will take a bit to get some return. If he blossoms just in time to get paid, its a waste of time. I think they put him on practice squad and don't let him get that cheap year on the books doing nothing.

I agree, but it's the lesser of the two evils - the other being the risk of losing him if we try to stash him on the practice squad and somebody else grabs him.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Thornton isn't going anywhere. I think he's shown more in the games than the group think amongst the writers.