Official Gameday Thread 8-16-14, against some other team in a game that doesn't matter

[HarveyWallbangers]

I finally watched the game. So much for the worries about Cobb. He looks fine. Looks like the beat writers were in panic mode for nothing. He did come back out of shape at the end of last year (which is understandable), but it's good to know that the injury will have no long-term affects on him.

[bobblehead]

He had two complete breakdowns in first half, and one near miss. This against a backup. In 2nd half, he got abused by a practice squad level guy.

What we learned last week is Sherrod can play on a muddy field. He's good-to-go in a driving rainstorm.

There are a lot of games on fast turf. Sherrod is supposed to be the 6th man, he's on the field with any non-center injury.

Yes, He got beat twice early on. I am not hailing him as the second coming, but it seems like with Bahk, the general attitude has been "yea, he gets beat bad twice a game, but is otherwise solid". With Sherrod its, dude got whooped twice, cut him. Neither guy is studly by any means. Bahk might be the better LT atm, might even be long term; however, only one has the skillset to become a very good LT someday.

I said in a post awhile back that with Bahk you get a scrapper who won't get totally BLOWN UP very often and a good run blocker, but he rarely stonewalls guys. With Sherrod, you get a guy who needs to work on technique, will get blown up occasionally as you work through the pains, but has the capability to stonewall guys. I can't be positive that Sherrod gets it eventually, but I am positive that Bahk isn't going to get taller, longer, and more massive. He also isn't suddenly going to develop great feet.

Sherrod was taken off guard by Sims, not a good thing by any means. He needs snaps. Thankfully he is getting them. For anyone who thinks he was god awful, rewatch ALL the game. He got beat 3 times counting sams. That is 2 more times than we consider acceptable. That also mean he won A LOT of battles. That is a FAR cry from being Marshall Newhouse.

[bobblehead]

With Bulaga back its an obvious upgrade over last year. If you discount him because of injury concerns, I would rather have Sherrod than last year's version of Barclay at RT. I would also prefer this year's Sherrod over any year Newhouse.
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This. I think people weren't watching our OL last season. Or generally don't, but are focused on Sherrod in a much different light. Honest truth, I think I would take this sherrod over last years Bahk in training camp, or any backup tackle I can recall recently.

I guess many long for the days of that tall dude that is in seattle now, or babre, or Daryn College at LT. Perhaps we should resign Newhouse? Or maybe TJ Lang should be the backup LT again...actually, I might be happier at this point if Lang were the starter with Bahk at guard.

I think many are way over estimating Bahk and at the same time expecting Sherrod to be Clifton+run blocking.

[Harlan Huckleby]

For anyone who thinks he was god awful, rewatch ALL the game. He got beat 3 times counting sams. That is 2 more times than we consider acceptable. That also mean he won A LOT of battles. That is a FAR cry from being Marshall Newhouse.

Actually that describes a Newhouse game. Newhouse won most of his battles too.

My problem with Sherry is that I have high expectations. He looks the part. My bar for him is that he should be pushing Bach for the starting job, anything less is unacceptable, as the stage mother would say.

[pbmax]

Actually that describes a Newhouse game. Newhouse won most of his battles too.

My problem with Sherry is that I have high expectations. He looks the part. My bar for him is that he should be pushing Bach for the starting job, anything less is unacceptable, as the stage mother would say.

Newhouse actually did win most of his battles. Problem was though, he would then stop and if it wasn't a quick hitter (and its often not with Rodgers) he would lose the second battle. In two of his three beats, Sherrod stuck with his man to slow him up and provide an escape angle.

There isn't a good way to get beat, but fighting until the end helps. He still needs to improve, take a better set and get lower or strike first. But I think he will still get better.

[Pugger]

We also have to remember Sherrod is most likely rusty as hell. He's seeing live action extensively for the first time in 2 years.

[gbgary]

We also have to remember Sherrod is most likely rusty as hell. He's seeing live action extensively for the first time in 2 years.

but he's been going against matthews in practice/camp. that's quite a test. most everyone else should be cake.

[3irty1]

The big difference between Sherrod and Newhouse is that when Newhouse got beat it was often inside. Much much worse!

[denverYooper]

Newhouse actually did win most of his battles. Problem was though, he would then stop and if it wasn't a quick hitter (and its often not with Rodgers) he would lose the second battle. In two of his three beats, Sherrod stuck with his man to slow him up and provide an escape angle.

There isn't a good way to get beat, but fighting until the end helps. He still needs to improve, take a better set and get lower or strike first. But I think he will still get better.

He seemed to have an issue adjusting to the wide DE at first and it looked like he was trying to process it on the fly. That, coupled with the faster track and the semi-unconventional attack angle from the DE might well have given him a lot to acclimate to right away. It was good to see that he didn't just become a basket case and it seemed like he settled down.

[Joemailman]

We also have to remember Sherrod is most likely rusty as hell. He's seeing live action extensively for the first time in 2 years.

That excuse only goes so far. Bulaga hadn't played in a football game since November 2012 and hasn't seemed to miss a beat.

[HarveyWallbangers]

True, but Bulaga has played a lot more NFL snaps, and Sherrod was said to be raw when he came in. We'll see. I'd really like to see Sherrod play well the next two weeks to make me feel better about the backup OT spot.

[bobblehead]

That CBS video link from Harlan shows the sack he gave up late. I think they got Rettig.

On the plus side, he didn't lose him until very late and Rettig saw him coming. He had time to dump the ball. Its wasn't a jailbreak, but it also wasn't good.

The difference between that sack, and Rodgers scramble for a first down early on wasn't the LT, it was the QB. Bahk was beaten around the outside similar to the way Sherrod was beaten. Difference was the guy with the football.

[bobblehead]

He had two complete breakdowns in first half, and one near miss. This against a backup. In 2nd half, he got abused by a practice squad level guy.

What we learned last week is Sherrod can play on a muddy field. He's good-to-go in a driving rainstorm.

There are a lot of games on fast turf. Sherrod is supposed to be the 6th man, he's on the field with any non-center injury.

He had 2 complete breakdowns after coming in cold. I'm not happy or excusing it, but he was pretty damn good after that. The Sams sack...well, i addressed that already. He was beaten, but not that badly.

[bobblehead]

Actually that describes a Newhouse game. Newhouse won most of his battles too.

My problem with Sherry is that I have high expectations. He looks the part. My bar for him is that he should be pushing Bach for the starting job, anything less is unacceptable, as the stage mother would say.

I watched everyone of Bahks snaps. I believe the seperation between him and Sherrod is not NEARLY what many here seem to think.

[bobblehead]

The big difference between Sherrod and Newhouse is that when Newhouse got beat it was often inside. Much much worse!

Well...I actually think that is Sherrods weakness at this point as well. He sets up to avoid it, and still might bet better, but its inside stuff that is a problem for him.