Sherrodhouse

[Harlan Huckleby]

you lost your good technique because you panicked?

Sherrod has the yips! It's a WI epidemic.


What you suggest is possible, but keep in mind that Sherry got yippy against St. Louis's 2nd string and practice squad.

I have two more Al Bundy-like wrestling stories that I've already worn out. I beat Tim Krumrie in wrestling in high school. When I was a heavyweight in college, the athletic director was Otto Graham, and he tried to get me to play football.

Since then, I've been pretty occupied at the shoe store.

[Joemailman]

McGinn seems to think that Sherrod is slower post-injury than he was before. If that's the case, it's doubtful he can be a reliable tackle. He's stronger than he used to be. His best shot might be at Guard.

[pbmax]

Much too much is made about his missed off season as a rookie. Quite a few rookies miss most of the off season stuff because the schools are still in session and they are not allowed to participate but for a couple days under league rules. Others miss because of injuries. No one argues that it wastes their entire rookie season just because they were nonparticipants in May and June (everyone is gone in July anyway). The fact is, the rookies don't get a lot of work before TC, some yes, but not a lot. Didn't the league allow a rookie orientation of sorts in 2011? I know they talked about it, but I don't remember for sure or not if it happened.

#1 picks tend to get a lot of reps.

But the point is not just his truncated rookie season. He also then missed his sophomore offseason, camp and most of the year. Then in Year 3 he had ANOTHER surgery and missed the offseason work again. So in Year 3 of his Pro calendar, even by your reckoning on his first year, he had a rookie years worth of work and another limited offseason.

Year 4 opens with his first full offseason. And he entered it with less than 2 seasons worth of work (my point).

But we are past that now. He doesn't look better. He might be worse. If its physical and he can no longer move like he did (if that surgeon botched his leg that bad) he is probably done. All this time I have been rooting for this first round talent to move into the starting lineup to increase the available talent on the line and let Barclay or Bach be a backup. Right now, he doesn't look qualified to be the backup.

[Bretsky]

#1 picks tend to get a lot of reps.

But the point is not just his truncated rookie season. He also then missed his sophomore offseason, camp and most of the year. Then in Year 3 he had ANOTHER surgery and missed the offseason work again. So in Year 3 of his Pro calendar, even by your reckoning on his first year, he had a rookie years worth of work and another limited offseason.

Year 4 opens with his first full offseason. And he entered it with less than 2 seasons worth of work (my point).

But we are past that now. He doesn't look better. He might be worse. If its physical and he can no longer move like he did (if that surgeon botched his leg that bad) he is probably done. All this time I have been rooting for this first round talent to move into the starting lineup to increase the available talent on the line and let Barclay or Bach be a backup. Right now, he doesn't look qualified to be the backup.

Can't we all jus agree.........he sucks

[red]

If you ask me, and nobody did, I think Sherrod just doesn't have the feet to play. Obviously I know close to nothing compared to the Packer decision makers.

thats my take on him as well. he doesn't have the feet or speed to handle the speed/edge rushers. he looks just fine against mauler types, but it seems like he can be beat every time by the speed guys.

unfortunately, theres a lot of speed rushers in the NFL right now

and i don't know lineman, but i'm not thinking that is something that can just be "fixed"

maybe he should be a guard?

[pbmax]

thats my take on him as well. he doesn't have the feet or speed to handle the speed/edge rushers. he looks just fine against mauler types, but it seems like he can be beat every time by the speed guys.

unfortunately, theres a lot of speed rushers in the NFL right now

and i don't know lineman, but i'm not thinking that is something that can just be "fixed"

maybe he should be a guard?

??

His worst two plays in the preseason were getting run over by bull rushers and that just about happened in his rookie season. His feet and arm/hands (reach not punch) were his strength. In two road games (Rams and Seahawks) it looks like his feet or speed have left him.

He can still lock a guy up if he gets him in anything but a bull rush, but the problem now is that he isn't getting to them.

When he went into the games his rookie year, he had a couple of wary snaps where he lost his guy on his first step. But he adjusted and looked solid.

He has not adjusted on the road yet.

[Patler]

McGinn's assessment of Sherrod after his rookie season:

"He needs a ton of technique work along with greater urgency in his approach. He's still a long way away. Grade: F."

[ThunderDan]

Sherrod didn't play enough his rookie year to get an F. He should have gotten an Incomplete.

[pbmax]

McGinn's assessment of Sherrod after his rookie season:

That seems overly harsh. I didn't see F play from him even in the rookie year. But I did not watch him in practice.

[Patler]

Sherrod didn't play enough his rookie year to get an F. He should have gotten an Incomplete.

He played roughly two games worth of snaps.
I've never understood the point of McGinn giving as many incompletes as he does. Sure, if a guy ir injured, or plays behind an established veteran. But if he isn't good enough to play and contribute, especially when he is a first or second round pick and plays a position that has needs, that tells a lot and justifies a grade, in my opinion.

[Patler]

That seems overly harsh. I didn't see F play from him even in the rookie year. But I did not watch him in practice.

I don't know, it seems to me that a guy who couldn't outplay Newhouse probable earned the "F".

[pbmax]

I don't know, it seems to me that a guy who couldn't outplay Newhouse probable earned the "F".

I have always wondered about that. He was clearly a better pass blocker on the right side than Newhouse and neither was a lights out run blocker. That would have been during his snaps after injuries struck others.

His practices must not have been good. However, I don't remember most of his end of game snaps at Left Tackle he got during the competition with Newhouse. Those might have looked worse.

[Patler]

However, I don't remember most of his end of game snaps at Left Tackle he got during the competition with Newhouse. Those might have looked worse.

I remember completely falling of the Sherrod bandwagon (if I was ever on it) when he split time at LT with Newhouse against Oakland. I didn't remember the details, other than he had played a lot, until a reread an article now. He played the entire second half and a series in the first half. Newhouse had been struggling and inconsistent, it was almost the end of the season, and I hoped the physically big 1st round draft choice would show he had the talent to be given the chance. MM and Newhouse both said the two tackles had split time in practice for several weeks, and both knew that a "competition" was coming in a game. Both knew (or expected) it would be against Oakland. When all was said and done, MM basically said the next week that the competition was over, and they would stick with Newhouse the rest of the year.

That was why I have been surprised when some have recalled Sherrod being better at the end of the season. He was given a golden opportunity and couldn't take advantage. So, he improved but was still worse than Newhouse???????

[pbmax]

I just don't remember that game. I remember him with the two injury fill-ins in the middle of the season. And his time at KC. Don't remember the Oakland stint. I thought he looked very good versus KC and that might be what I was going off of.

[Harlan Huckleby]

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2014/09/08/packers-work-out-van-dyk/15315211/

Sherrod replacement?