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  • #16
    Originally posted by Zool View Post
    If Rodgers goes down and Flynn goes down what then?
    OK, keep 3 QBs. I take it then that the plan is to keep Flynn ahead of Tolzien next year too. Otherwise, what is gained by procrastinating the decision to promote Tolzien?

    You are keeping a less talented player buried in the depth chart because you can't bring yourself to take a risk. That same risk will always be there.

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    • #17
      Keep Flynn, try to get Tolzien to the PS. If you lose him, don't sweat it. It is unlikely they will need three anyway.

      I don't think either one of them will be in that great of a demand on the waiver wire. Not many teams keep three QBs on their regular rosters anymore, and most will go with one they have had through out TC. Injuries, of course, can change that thinking for any team. The "worry" might be SF, if some of you are correct in stating their backups have been bad, since they have experience with Tolzien.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Zool View Post
        If Rodgers goes down and Flynn goes down what then?
        Sign Tolzien to give up his seat on the couch of his living room, or sign some other QB who probably has more actual playing experience than Tolzien.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Patler View Post
          Sign Tolzien to give up his seat on the couch of his living room, or sign some other QB who probably has more actual playing experience than Tolzien.
          I wonder if its too easy to dismiss his attractiveness to teams. He was signed by a team with Norv Turner as HC then picked up by Harbaugh for 2 years. Then the Packers came calling. It would be easy to dismiss Norv and AJ Smith (even though they tended to find decent QB prospects) but the other two teams seem to be a good recommendation.

          I think he gets picked up if waived and other waiver fodder would be worse. Flynn might get picked up too, if last season was marred by his elbow trouble. Though he would be more likely to last for some time until a team needed a stop gap vet.
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #20
            We saw last year what the quality of QBs looks like on the street. Of course Tolzien will find a team if cut, Flynn too in time.

            I do think Patler's idea of just going with Flynn makes some sense, given his low evaluation of Tolzien.

            I don't see anybody voting for just keeping Flynn.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
              We saw last year what the quality of QBs looks like on the street. Of course Tolzien will find a team if cut, Flynn too in time.

              I do think Patler's idea of just going with Flynn makes some sense, given his low evaluation of Tolzien.

              I don't see anybody voting for just keeping Flynn.

              Still pissed at Tolzien for mucking up the TCU game

              Keep Flynn !!
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              • #22
                Originally posted by QBME View Post
                Agree with the logic, inverse ranking.
                +1

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                  We saw last year what the quality of QBs looks like on the street. Of course Tolzien will find a team if cut, Flynn too in time.

                  I do think Patler's idea of just going with Flynn makes some sense, given his low evaluation of Tolzien.

                  I don't see anybody voting for just keeping Flynn.
                  Huh? Mostly we saw Tolzien last year, who didn't have much success in game results and Flynn who did. Tolzien was with GB for 10 weeks before he was asked to play. Flynn bounced around between three (?) teams, sat at home a few weeks, was in GB for something like 5 practices and saved the seaaon.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Patler View Post
                    Keep Flynn, try to get Tolzien to the PS. If you lose him, don't sweat it. It is unlikely they will need three anyway.

                    I don't think either one of them will be in that great of a demand on the waiver wire. Not many teams keep three QBs on their regular rosters anymore, and most will go with one they have had through out TC. Injuries, of course, can change that thinking for any team. The "worry" might be SF, if some of you are correct in stating their backups have been bad, since they have experience with Tolzien.
                    Is he eligible?
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by 3irty1 View Post
                      Is he eligible?
                      Yes.

                      Rob Demovsky ‏@RobDemovsky 6h
                      Clearing up Scott Tolzien's practice-squad eligibility. Guess what? He's eligible, the NFL says. #Packers
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Patler View Post
                        Sign Tolzien to give up his seat on the couch of his living room, or sign some other QB who probably has more actual playing experience than Tolzien.
                        I'd much rather the guy with 1.5 years in the playboy who's been at practice, team meetings, games etc.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #27
                          HH, I don't exactly get your zeal for Tolzien.

                          Flynn is the team's back-up, Tozien is extra insurance.

                          FLYNN IN THE FOURTH
                          In Green Bay’s comeback win at Dallas in Week 15 last season, QB Matt
                          Flynn had a strong showing in the fourth quarter, connecting on nine of 12
                          passes for 99 yards and two TDs for a 138.5 passer rating.
                          After coming on in relief of QB Scott Tolzien in the second half of the
                          Week 12 contest, Flynn had had a lot of success in the fourth quarter of
                          games. He posted a 125.5 passer rating in the final quarter, completing
                          33 of 46 passes for 383 yards and four TDs with no INTs.
                          Flynn’s fourth-quarter passer rating in Weeks 12-17 ranked No. 1 in
                          the NFL over that span:
                          In the Week 15 win at Dallas, Flynn became the first QB in franchise history
                          to throw four TD passes in a second half. He was one of four NFL
                          quarterbacks to do so last season:

                          Player Passing TDs (2nd Half)
                          1. Peyton Manning, vs. Bal., 9/5/13 5
                          2t. Matt Flynn, at Dal., 12/15/13 4
                          2t. Andrew Luck, at Cin., 12/8/13 4
                          2t. Tony Romo, at Den., 10/6/13 4

                          Flynn is walking in some tall cotton in elite company.
                          Tozien is still eligible for the practice squad.

                          It ain't like, close.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
                            Still pissed at Tolzien for mucking up the TCU game

                            Keep Flynn !!
                            OK, I can respect this. Vengeance is good, it has a long tradition.
                            My problem is with the posters suffering from Low T who can't bring themselves to promote Tolzien over Flynn, yet they also can't decide to cut Tolzien, they want to hang on to him to try again in a year. Nothing will be different in a year. If you think Tolzien stinks, cut him and free a roster spot.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                              HH, I don't exactly get your zeal for Tolzien.

                              Flynn is the team's back-up, Tozien is extra insurance.
                              I don't actually have any zeal for Tolzien, just some manufactured enthusiasm for recreational purposes.
                              Tolzien looks significantly better than Flynn this preseason, so I say give him a spin. Your statement there that Flynn is unchallengable is odd.

                              Originally posted by KYPack View Post
                              Tozien is still eligible for the practice squad.
                              Ya, so is Eddie Lacy. Tolzien isn't going to clear waivers.
                              This talk of the practice squad is just a crutch to make the decision seem easier.

                              Look at the poll, nobody can bring themselves to just cut Tolzien outright! I'm going back to watching The View, more virile.
                              Last edited by Harlan Huckleby; 08-28-2014, 11:03 AM.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Zool View Post
                                Lets see Tolzien against the #1s because last year he was bad against a few teams' number 1 D.
                                Of course last year he was thrown into the fire after Wallace got hurt and really didn't know the offense like he does now so I don't put a lot of weight on his performances last year. If I can find an online feed of the game tonight I will be watching both Scot and Matt closely.

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