Flynn Tolzien do-over

[Pugger]

Huh? Mostly we saw Tolzien last year, who didn't have much success in game results and Flynn who did. Tolzien was with GB for 10 weeks before he was asked to play. Flynn bounced around between three (?) teams, sat at home a few weeks, was in GB for something like 5 practices and saved the seaaon.

And Scott was on the practice squad until Rodgers got hurt and then he had to be Wallace's backup. A guy on the PS doesn't get any reps so he was truly green when he was forced to play after Wallace got hurt.

[Harlan Huckleby]

OK, so Patler is a real man.

[Patler]

And Scott was on the practice squad until Rodgers got hurt and then he had to be Wallace's backup. A guy on the PS doesn't get any reps so he was truly green when he was forced to play after Wallace got hurt.

A QB on PS does get to study the playbook, so Flynn had 10 weeks of that. He does get to do film study with the other QBs, so Flynn had 10 weeks of that. He does get to watch the #1 & #2 run the offense, so Flynn had 10 weeks of watching and learning from watching Rodgers & Wallace. He gets to run the scout team, so he had practice with mechanics. He should have been as prepared or more prepared than Fynn was when he came in. Flynn even remarked at how much the offense had changed since he was last there.

I'm not saying he was as prepared as he might be now, but 2 1/2 months into the season the excuse wears thin. It's his job to get prepared, and Tolzien is reputed to be a tireless worker in that regard. I will give him some slack, but not a lot. He was in his third year in the league, with two full seasons on the 49ers 53 man roster.

Even this year so far, Tolzien gets yards, but tends to come up short on getting points.

I just don't think he has done enough to get beyond the proven commodity that Flynn is for the Packers. Maybe he will eventually, but he really has not shown that yet this preseason.

[Guiness]

A QB on PS does get to study the playbook, so Tolzien had 10 weeks of that. He does get to do film study with the other QBs, so Tolzien had 10 weeks of that. He does get to watch the #1 & #2 run the offense, so Tolzien had 10 weeks of watching and learning from watching Rodgers & Wallace. He gets to run the scout team, so he had practice with mechanics. He should have been as prepared or more prepared than Fynn was when he came in. Flynn even remarked at how much the offense had changed since he was last there.

I'm not saying he was as prepared as he might be now, but 2 1/2 months into the season the excuse wears thin. It's his job to get prepared, and Tolzien is reputed to be a tireless worker in that regard. I will give him some slack, but not a lot. He was in his third year in the league, with two full seasons on the 49ers 53 man roster.

Even this year so far, Tolzien gets yards, but tends to come up short on getting points.

I just don't think he has done enough to get beyond the proven commodity that Flynn is for the Packers. Maybe he will eventually, but he really has not shown that yet this preseason.

Pretty much how I feel, but I'm pretty sure you swapped the QBs names?

[pbmax]

Film room and QB room and meetings with McAdoo are all well and good. Practice reps as (at best) scout team QB running another team's plays are not as good. Even the team acknowledged that second stringer Wallace didn't get enough first team reps when it was his time to go in.

You need an offseason and training camp to master an offense, especially a player who had not previously started except in exhibitions in another offense.

His performance last year plus his background are not enough to make him the backup unless you are willing to live with underprepared. And given the Packers stashed him on the PS in 2013, they weren't.

But he looks different this year. We have no way to know if it will carry over to the regular season, but it looks much more promising than Flynn so far. One problem is that reporters have said Flynn, despite fitful production in preseason games, has had a good camp.

[Pugger]

All I can say is if we only keep one we'll be miles ahead than this time last year. I don't know if we have the luxury to keep both.

[MadScientist]

Sign Tolzien to give up his seat on the couch of his living room, or sign some other QB who probably has more actual playing experience than Tolzien.

Yea, because signing QB's after TC who had never been in the GB system worked out so well last year.

Tolzien has outplayed Flynn in the preseason, but I suspect that the Packers trust Flynn more because of his regular season track record. For that reason they will probably keep both, with Flynn as the number 2.

[esoxx]

I'd much rather the guy with 1.5 years in the playboy who's been at practice, team meetings, games etc.

To each his own pal. I'd much rather my QB, back up or otherwise, keep his focus on football instead of softcore porn. Take it to the Garbage Can.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Hey, Freak Out weighs in with some grapefruit-sized balls, he cut Tolzien.


I'm going to have some major crow to eat if Tolzien makes it to the practice squad. But I'm expecting Bretsky to be eating the humble pie as soon as tomorrow.

[Zool]

To each his own pal. I'd much rather my QB, back up or otherwise, keep his focus on football instead of softcore porn. Take it to the Garbage Can.

It's all about the articles my good man.

[KYPack]

I don't actually have any zeal for Tolzien, just some manufactured enthusiasm for recreational purposes.
Tolzien looks significantly better than Flynn this preseason, so I say give him a spin. Your statement there that Flynn is unchallengable is odd.


Ya, so is Eddie Lacy. Tolzien isn't going to clear waivers.
This talk of the practice squad is just a crutch to make the decision seem easier.

Look at the poll, nobody can bring themselves to just cut Tolzien outright! I'm going back to watching The View, more virile.

Anything you say, Harlan.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Anything you say, Harlan.

Welcome aboard Team Huckleby, I am honored by your allegiance. You could do far worse for a guru.

[Patler]

Pretty much how I feel, but I'm pretty sure you swapped the QBs names?

Sure did, thanks for correcting it. That's what I get for trying to get a post off quickly before leaving for the rest of the day!

[woodbuck27]

OK. But if you aren't going to promote Tolzien to #2, what is the point? You aren't going to learn anything about Tolzien this year.

Tolzien has more talent than Flynn. That will always be true.
Flynn has more experience than Tolzien. If you aren't willing to promote Tolzien of Flynn, that will remain true.

It is not worth using up a roster spot if you aren't willing to take a risk and promote Tolzien ahead of Flynn.

I'd want Tolzien's upside.

[Rutnstrut]

I've seen how little upside Tolzien has when I watched every Badger game he played in. Whether seeing him in person or on tv, it was not very impressive. Flynn gets it done, it may not be pretty but he gets it done.