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  • #46
    Originally posted by red View Post
    the big problem for me is that we were promised something better

    after last season, there wasn't a cheesehead alive that didn't want slocum gone.he was kept, along with giving him a new partner (zook). we were told things would improve. on thursday night we saw the same old shit we've always seen from slocum special teams. mental mistake after mental mistake, after mental mistake

    the defense was bad last year, but according to M3 that wasn't capers fault. the two of them would work together to get everything fixed. we were even told we would play a lot of 4-3. instead on thursday, we saw the same old defense, getting gouged for massive yardage on the ground. we saw the same brad jones who was useless yet deemed unreplaceable in free agency and the draft. and the thing that M3 and capers called a 4-3 was really the 2-4, or 2-5 or 0-7 which most of us all love so much

    we were promised more of a rush based attack. but like in years past, the rushing attack was abandoned after the first drive for much of the night

    and we also saw a team that couldn't tackle to save there lives. something we have been plagued with in the past, and should have been fixed, but was not

    we also saw a staple of M3's time in green bay that pops up way more then it should. a team that comes out of the gates looking completely confused and unprepared to play. when what we were trying to do obviously wasn't working, did we try to adjust? nope

    the look of shock and confusion coming from m3 and players faces during the game was enough to piss me off

    there were obvious problems with this team last year. after watching pre season and the first game, its become clear that those problems weren't fixed and in some cases not even addressed

    Red the reason many things weren't addressed is because TT and company are happy with mediocrity. Also the downfall of the Packers is there is no "owner" to appease so the org can sit on it's laurels.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by red View Post
      the big problem for me is that we were promised something better

      after last season, there wasn't a cheesehead alive that didn't want slocum gone.he was kept, along with giving him a new partner (zook). we were told things would improve. on thursday night we saw the same old shit we've always seen from slocum special teams. mental mistake after mental mistake, after mental mistake

      the defense was bad last year, but according to M3 that wasn't capers fault. the two of them would work together to get everything fixed. we were even told we would play a lot of 4-3. instead on thursday, we saw the same old defense, getting gouged for massive yardage on the ground. we saw the same brad jones who was useless yet deemed unreplaceable in free agency and the draft. and the thing that M3 and capers called a 4-3 was really the 2-4, or 2-5 or 0-7 which most of us all love so much

      we were promised more of a rush based attack. but like in years past, the rushing attack was abandoned after the first drive for much of the night

      and we also saw a team that couldn't tackle to save there lives. something we have been plagued with in the past, and should have been fixed, but was not

      we also saw a staple of M3's time in green bay that pops up way more then it should. a team that comes out of the gates looking completely confused and unprepared to play. when what we were trying to do obviously wasn't working, did we try to adjust? nope

      the look of shock and confusion coming from m3 and players faces during the game was enough to piss me off

      there were obvious problems with this team last year. after watching pre season and the first game, its become clear that those problems weren't fixed and in some cases not even addressed

      THIS

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
        Red the reason many things weren't addressed is because TT and company are happy with mediocrity. Also the downfall of the Packers is there is no "owner" to appease so the org can sit on it's laurels.
        I'm sure they start every season thinking "let's aim for 9-7/8-8 or worse this year!".

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        • #49
          How many more than 21 carries (all RB) do you want when trailing for 3/4 of the game and the run is averaging less than 4 yards a carry?
          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
            Red the reason many things weren't addressed is because TT and company are happy with mediocrity. Also the downfall of the Packers is there is no "owner" to appease so the org can sit on it's laurels.
            Yep. Just think how much more successful the Packers would be if they had a real owner. Maybe we could borrow one from Cleveland or Jacksonville or Oakland.

            Your comment reminded me of one of my favorite movie clips:

            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
              Why would they work on fundamentals now, they haven't for the last 3 years?
              Actually, it was a pretty big point of emphasis in training camp. Better question is why didn't it help?
              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                Actually, it was a pretty big point of emphasis in training camp. Better question is why didn't it help?


                Last year, when they lost to SF in the first game, I didn't mind so much because the Packers played pretty tough. I had hope for that defense.

                But this Seattle game reminded me of the SF playoff game two years ago - that defense just can't figure out misdirection stuff, period, and the tackling was super, super lame.

                Had the team tackled hard and crisply, Lynch wouldn't have run for a million yards. To me, it's less about scheme and more about the ability to tackle people.

                Like Red, I totally didn't get that supposed "hurry up" that was as fast as a turtle with a hernia. That made no sense to me at all.

                And then there was the traditional Packer injury.

                What an ugly, ugly, ugly night.

                This team - players and coaches - keeps complaining that they're not soft, but they keep on having games like this, in which they look as soft as a 90 year old man's winkie.
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by red View Post
                  yeah, i didn't get the no huddle either. going no huddle and having to verbally scream out the play to every player on the field in the loudest stadium in the NFL seems kind of stupid

                  if you're gonna run no huddle, run lots of plays. we got up to the line quick, then used up the whole play clock on almost every play

                  and finally, they kept saying that the whole point of the no huddle was to keep the same defensive players on the field and to wear them down. that doesn't work when they are man handling you and force you into short drives all night

                  its like MM looked at what chip kelly was doing and said, hey that no huddle works great for him. he just didn't noticed that the point of kellys offense is to run twice as many plays as normal in a game
                  Did Chip Kelly's Eagles have to play Seattle recently?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                    Red the reason many things weren't addressed is because TT and company are happy with mediocrity. Also the downfall of the Packers is there is no "owner" to appease so the org can sit on it's laurels.
                    This has to be the most ridiculous post I've read in quite a while. What is wild is you are being serious too.

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