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If that report is correct, and Peterson has hit this 4 year old in the head with a punch, well it's just disgusting. I have a 4 year old, and I cannot imagine her sustaining a punch from Adrian Peterson and not sustaining permanent damage...
Worse than Ray Rice by about 100 fold.
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Originally posted by smuggler View PostIf that report is correct, and Peterson has hit this 4 year old in the head with a punch, well it's just disgusting. I have a 4 year old, and I cannot imagine her sustaining a punch from Adrian Peterson and not sustaining permanent damage...
Worse than Ray Rice by about 100 fold.
Probably best to stick to the facts but if all of it is true, he should be on the rock pile for a while.
Tex would likely take the tact of - if we kill the children and they can't testify can our guy play sunday?
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What is so bad about this? This is a serious question. The scratches look very, very minor. It doesn't seem that bad to me. IDK, a black eye or bruises is a lot worse than a few small scratches. Scratches bleed - it's not like the kid was gushing blood or in serious danger. Is it right? No, but people should be able to parent how they seem fit. This doesn't seem like child abuse to me. It is definitely worrisome and something to keep an eye on - but I don't consider those scratches to be child abuse.
I would never personally discipline my child this way. I wasn't disciplined this way and I don't personally see a need for doing it. Having said that...
It's not like the kid was seriously hurt or anything. It doesn't seem careless, negligent or abusive. It just seems like really old school, bad parenting. There are a lot of parents out there doing a lot worse. Let's be honest... Adrian isn't going to jail or anything like that. This trial will be quickly followed up with a civil suit where he'll settle. It's all about the $$$Last edited by call_me_ishmael; 09-13-2014, 01:17 AM.
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Multiple whacks with a stick to thighs, back and butt of a 4-year old child, some of which caused lacerations and bruises visible a week later. A sucker punch to the face of an adult female knocking her out.
Investigatory photos of the injuries on the child a week after the fact. Security system video of the punch to the adult.
The ultimate dispositions of these cases by the NFL will be interesting to compare/contrast.
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What is so bad about this? Let me start a list:Originally posted by call_me_ishmael View PostWhat is so bad about this?
1. Any discipline to a 4 year old that causes physical injury is excessive. Discipline that causes "scratches" (as you call them) that are still that visible a week later was clearly excessive. Kids heal amazingly fast. Cuts disappear within a few days. If these were truly "scratches" when they occurred, there would have been little to see just a few days later.
2. This was to a 4 year old child.
3. The transgression for which the child was punished seems to be the type of act little kids do. Maybe it was wrong, but did the type of punishment fit the crime?
4. This was to a 4 year old child.
5. The description of the number and locations of the injuries indicates that the "discipline" went on for quite some time. Again, for pushing another off a bike? What type of punishment would there be for something more serious?
6. This was to a 4 year old child.
7. We might debate the merits of a spank or two to the butt with an open hand, prolonged whipping with a stick is less justifiable.
8. This was to a 4 year old child.
9. There is some indication that this was just one incident within a pattern of significant physical discipline.
10. This was a 4 year old child.
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All of us old timers can remember getting disciplined with garden hoses, belts and small trees but this sort of thing just ain't right (and of course I didn't think it was right at the time). Reports I am reading this morning suggest AP smacked this boy in the nuts, and left several marks on boy's kegs that he 'felt bad about'. His comments and actions suggest he was also beat as a child, but I for one believe this is not the sort of legacy that should be passed to today's children.
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Thank you, sir.Originally posted by Patler View PostWhat is so bad about this? Let me start a list:
1. Any discipline to a 4 year old that causes physical injury is excessive. Discipline that causes "scratches" (as you call them) that are still that visible a week later was clearly excessive. Kids heal amazingly fast. Cuts disappear within a few days. If these were truly "scratches" when they occurred, there would have been little to see just a few days later.
2. This was to a 4 year old child.
3. The transgression for which the child was punished seems to be the type of act little kids do. Maybe it was wrong, but did the type of punishment fit the crime?
4. This was to a 4 year old child.
5. The description of the number and locations of the injuries indicates that the "discipline" went on for quite some time. Again, for pushing another off a bike? What type of punishment would there be for something more serious?
6. This was to a 4 year old child.
7. We might debate the merits of a spank or two to the butt with an open hand, prolonged whipping with a stick is less justifiable.
8. This was to a 4 year old child.
9. There is some indication that this was just one incident within a pattern of significant physical discipline.
10. This was a 4 year old child.
I too received heavy-handed discipline and made the conscious decision to not pass that legacy on to my own kids.
There are other and better ways. I cannot imagine what my kids could possibly do to make me think "Beating them for a prolonged period with a stick is the appropriate disciplinary option."
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That whoopin definitely looks to be of the extra legal variety.
I'm not saying this isn't a problem but I do believe Adrian's lawyers statement when he said he was using his best judgement as a parent. Meaning I can't imagine him losing his temper or getting drunk or any of the cliches and caning his kid. Somehow it makes sense to me that his standards and tough love are extreme and old school.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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The kid pushed some other kid off a bike, who knows how that shit went down but that kid could have got fucked up. Then he puts a pillow over fine kids face? Is that a way to play around?? I don't know the situation with baby momma but betting she lets little AP act like he is a king. Maybe AP saw the kid turning a bad direction and felt a strong message was needed. I'm an disgusted that he was even arrested. Sounds like he doesn't want his son to turn out to be a bad man and that's something this world can use.
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I just read the part of the head punching, if true that is too far but if it had happen wouldnt momma had called the cops then? Probably a slap to the head. I know you guys keep saying "a 4 year old" but when exactly is the kid suppose to get straightened out? When he is 10 and doesn't give a fuck what anyone says? I'm sure many here feel that today's kids are selfish little bastards, how you think they got that way? It a different world from even when any of us grew up. If this is the cost to teach his son respect for others then so be it.
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The "Full House" punishment would be more humane. Call a time out, put a chair by a corner in a room. Let the kid sit there alone for a few minutes and then go talk to him about his misdeeds. Hug the kid.Originally posted by MadtownPacker View PostThe kid pushed some other kid off a bike, who knows how that shit went down but that kid could have got fucked up. Then he puts a pillow over fine kids face? Is that a way to play around?? I don't know the situation with baby momma but betting she lets little AP act like he is a king. Maybe AP saw the kid turning a bad direction and felt a strong message was needed. I'm an disgusted that he was even arrested. Sounds like he doesn't want his son to turn out to be a bad man and that's something this world can use.
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