OFFICIAL 2015 NFL DRAFT THREAD

[wist43]

The Draft is finally just over 1 week away .....Thurs. April 30, 2015 and ends on
Saturday, May 2, 2015.

http://www.foxsports.com/wisconsin/story/green-bay-packers-nfl-mock-draft-roundup-april-21-edition-042115

Green Bay Packers mock draft roundup (April 21 edition)

Round One (1) Thursday evening.... April 30 , 2015:

LB Eric Kendricks, DT Malcom Brown and CB Jalen Collins are possible targets for Green Bay.

Dave Heller - FOX Sports Wisconsin .... APR 21, 2015 4:00p ET

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RE: WR Sammi Coate and Maxi the Taxi's post.

" Blessed with mercurial speed for a receiver of his height and build, he might be the elite deep threat in college football. "

The Packers are 'an offense first' team and I agree that TT will go possible game changer in Rd's . 1 - 3. WR prospect Sammie Coates looks like a second Rd. pick.

" Blessed with mercurial speed for a receiver of his height and build, he might be the elite deep threat in college football. " Rob Rang (12/4/14) and Fr. LINK in original post..... by Maxie the Taxi.


So who will....TT pick?

My prediction as it turned out in FA this year and the loss of CB's Tramon Williams and Davon House ....TT will certainly pick a CB (or two) in Rd's 1-4.

The WR I like more than Coates is Nelson Agholor, WR, USC.

I like those other guys too... with Brown first. Be okay with Brown in the 1st I think, I have to look at him some more.

There's a lot of similar talent from about 20-60... would like to see a trade down, unless someone drops. I think there's a log of good 2nd and 3rd round depth.

[Carolina_Packer]

Good choice, Wist. Everyone talks about the really flashy, sexy WR's. I think Nelson Agholor is a swiss army knife. His return skills would really help too. I heard him interviewed on Sirius XM and he sounds very articulate, and like a gym rat, football guy, very much into process, route running, and improvement. I hope he slips and that TT is forced to consider drafting him purely out of value. I think he could be one of those guys who blooms in the NFL, especially if he plays with a great QB.

[pittstang5]

Anyone do any research on Davis Tull, DE/OLB from U.Tenn-Chattanooga. Looks like he played DE but might be trying to make the switch to OLB in a 3-4. His measurables are really good.

I watched some tape and he's relentless. He doesn't always get to the QB, but disrupts the pocket when he doesn't.

Draft sites have him all over the board from a 3-4 Rounder all the way to a FA. Thoughts on this guy?

[vince]

How do you guys compare Anthony's skills to Kendricks'? Would anyone here be bummed if the Packers selected Kendricks over Anthony?

I'd be happy with either one. I think Kendricks is probably more polished but since Anthony's both bigger and faster, he has a higher ceiling and is more aggressive and willing to take more chances to make plays. Kendricks is the safer pick who does it all but doesn't bring the wood. He reminds me of Nick Barnett (no it's not the nappy fro). Just OK inside but rangy and solid in space. Definitely fills a big hole on this team.

[denverYooper]

I would think its worth it. Hardy would be fresh and probably hitting his girlfriend come playoff time.

FIFY

[Guiness]

Good choice, Wist. Everyone talks about the really flashy, sexy WR's. I think Nelson Agholor is a swiss army knife. His return skills would really help too. I heard him interviewed on Sirius XM and he sounds very articulate, and like a gym rat, football guy, very much into process, route running, and improvement. I hope he slips and that TT is forced to consider drafting him purely out of value. I think he could be one of those guys who blooms in the NFL, especially if he plays with a great QB.

A Swiss Army knife? Packers tried a toolbelt with Tori Gurley, but he didn't stick in GB (or anywhere else). The thing about that type of a player is they still have to have at least one tool that is exceptional, and Tori didn't. Does Agholor?

[wist43]

Anyone do any research on Davis Tull, DE/OLB from U.Tenn-Chattanooga. Looks like he played DE but might be trying to make the switch to OLB in a 3-4. His measurables are really good.

I watched some tape and he's relentless. He doesn't always get to the QB, but disrupts the pocket when he doesn't.

Draft sites have him all over the board from a 3-4 Rounder all the way to a FA. Thoughts on this guy?

I posted about him in the other thread... I have him as ILB though - don't think he can make on the outside. Short arms gets him hung up quite a bit - but I like his motor, he runs well, seems instinctive, and he's tough... he belongs inside in the NFL IMO.

[wist43]

A Swiss Army knife? Packers tried a toolbelt with Tori Gurley, but he didn't stick in GB (or anywhere else). The thing about that type of a player is they still have to have at least one tool that is exceptional, and Tori didn't. Does Agholor?

Runs good routes, gets into and out of his breaks quickly, has good hands, good production... the kid is a player.

Sr. year - 104 catches, 1313 yds, 12 TD's

[Fritz]

Old saw, but I want to reiterate two points: one, that outside of the QB position, I am all for the BPA choice in the first round, which is the round most people want TT to use to draft for need.

But if you can get a workmanlike, Hawk-like, serviceable ILB with your first round pick, or you could get a guy whom you're pretty sure can become an All Pro, you've got to take that guy. I make exception for the QB position just because if you draft a QB in the first round I don't think you'll very likely get your use of him. You'll develop him for a year or two, and his contract will almost be up, and if you're lucky Arod will still be playing. So then you're stuck getting little value out of your first round pick, whereas if you pick a QB in the fourth and develop him, you might even trade him later for a first. And end up drafting Jamaal Reynolds with that pick.

The second point is that I realize that none of us really know WTF is a good pick or not a good pick until years later. Not even Ted knows when he picks a guy. We have opinions, yes, and we sometimes try to back them with stats or film clips, but on the whole, we can bitch and moan or get all excited, but we just don't know.

Here's a list of Packer picks I was very excited about. And it's not a complete list, just a few names I loved when they were called during the Packers' time on the clock:

Jerel Worthy
Robert "Turd" Ferguson
Darrell Thompson
Will Blackmon
Khyri Thornton
Derrick Sherrod
Alex Green
Patrick Lee
Abdul Hodge
Kenny Peterson
Fred Vinson
Derrick Mayes
Gabe Wilins

The Washout Hall of Fame, for the most part. Doh!

[Zool]

So then you're stuck getting little value out of your first round pick, whereas if you pick a QB in the fourth and develop him, you might even trade him later for a first. And end up drafting Jamaal Reynolds with that pick.

Fuck dude....way to pick that old scab.

[Fritz]

Fuck dude....way to pick that old scab.

That's nothing.

Try 4th and 26.

[pbmax]

C'mon, this is the draft thread. A tale of overall, sustained excellence for 23 years.

If you want to self-flagellate, start a coaching decision thread with Holmgren trying to teach Dorsey Levens a lesson about holding out in camp.

[Fritz]

C'mon, this is the draft thread. A tale of overall, sustained excellence for 23 years.

If you want to self-flagellate, start a coaching decision thread with Holmgren trying to teach Dorsey Levens a lesson about holding out in camp.

Justin Harrell.

There. Thread back on track!

[smuggler]

I was pretty happy with the Worthy and Terrell Manning picks at the time.

[wist43]

I haven't had as much of a problem with some of the talent, as I've had with not filling needs.

TT simply living with substandard play at safety for how long?? Cost us how much?? Last year's debacle at ILB?? What a freaking mess... when there were ILB's drafted after some of our picks who turned out to be productive players.

Then there is the complete mess that was the 2011 draft - it was obvious the defense was in danger of falling off a great deal, yet TT did nothing to help the unit - either in FA or the draft. As a result, we posted one of the worst defensive seasons in NFL history!!

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Since that disasterous defensive performance in '11, TT has been making more of an effort than in the past at actually filling holes - but I can't find a rational excuse for his completely ignoring ILB for so long.

And keeping dunderdummy around is inexplicable. Doesn't matter how much talent you have, if you have the captain of the Keystone Cops directing traffic.