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  • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
    I love this stuff, but if you are the reporter and you have reported a team's interest in 3 prospects at one position in the first round, have you really uncovered anything other than what the team might think its needs are?
    Plus it's sometimes hard to decipher real interest from smoke screens at this time of the year. I like reading about interest in these specific guys over some of the guys I have concerns about (Collins from LSU, the Florida State guys and some of the smurfs). I just hope its real and not some of the worthless drivel the local beat guys spew from agents. Pauline has a lot more credibility in my eyes than the local puppets.

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    • Peters would be worth taking if his character concerns were checked out. He was kicked off his college program, but he's arguably the best combination of size/athleticism/ball-skills/school/performance at the position in the draft

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      • Been following Emory Hunt for the draft for a week. Here is his Packers mock, I am seriously starting to have doubts as a couple of these picks violate known Ted/Ron draft rules. However, he does say this is what he would do, not what Ted would do. Curious what you guys think about his picks:

        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • This is the video that caused me to follow Hunt. It illustrates the problem I have with the draft. I watch this video and see a corner take so many shortcuts he would get roasted in the NFL. So how can you possibly project what he will do in the NFL when he has to change his game?

          Someone was recommending this prospect as a Packer pick at CB and provided Hunt's video as evidence.


          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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          • I don't think so with Terry Williams, Rakeem Cato, or DJoun Smith. All too short for the Pack to draft so high. Not that Green Bay wouldn't draft them, but the lack of height will push them down the Packer big board. Maybe Smith at that spot anyway, since it's a 6th.

            My first instinct is to DQ Matias because TT does not draft interior guys, but he did buck that trend with Linsley last year, ang GB does need depth at guard. Both Sitton and Lang spent a lot of time on the injured list last year, even though they toughed it out and played for the most part.

            Devante Davis is a classic Packer pick though.

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            • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              Is anyone convinced about Palmer and Mulumba?

              With Peppers for perhaps one more year (and no guarantee on that), isn't OLB a concern as much as DL?
              I like Mulumba... has the physical tools and athletic ability. Just a matter of his instincts and understanding of the game.

              Not sure about Palmer, haven't seen enough of him.
              wist

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              • Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
                sounds like your looking for the guy I just started doing a little research on:

                Eric Rowe, Utah

                Some think he's a safety, some say CB. The more I read, the more I like.
                I like Rowe too... he's a little stiff in the hips, so I don't know if he can play outside, but he's a big, physical DB with range. Would excel in the slot, zone coverage, and run support. He's definitely on my wish list.
                wist

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                • Originally posted by vince View Post
                  Yeah. I like Rowe too. Byron Jones and Rowe are the two corners I'd be happiest about landing early. I think they have high ceilings.

                  One of Kendricks, Anthony, Perryman to go along with Jones or Rowe and that'd be a pretty amazing start to a draft in my book.

                  CB and ILB Rankings at Green Bay's Likely Sweet Spots in the Draft (30 - 130) - CBSSports.com (as of March 30)

                  24 CB Johnson Wake Forest - that's a bit too high for him IMO
                  30 CB Peters Washington - uncoachable/character risk - Ted takes shots on these guys in the 7th not the first.
                  35 ILB Kendricks UCLA - His d-line kept him clean a lot but he's a bigger, faster, stronger version of Nick Barnett. He'd do just fine.
                  37 CB P.J. Williams Florida State - Has the physical traits you want but I'm not sure if he can play.
                  44 CB Quentin Rollins Miami (Ohio) - smallish, raw, unpolished is what I'm reading. Has only played CB for one year but tough, aggressive, hard worker...
                  45 ILB Bernardrick McKinney Texas A&M. I don't like him. He just doesn't seem to me to be an impact player.
                  47 ILB Anthony Clemson - He could be the guy Ted jumps on in the first too.
                  54 CB Collins LSU - One of the finest physical specimens at CB in the draft but raw and I'm not convinced he has enough athleticism to reach the potential his size and speed might suggest.
                  55 CB Jones Connecticut - He's moving up I'd say. Not sure he's gonna get to the 62 spot in the draft.
                  66 CB Darby Florida State - Speed to run with guys deep but I fear this guy is too much of a sprinter and not enough of a football player.
                  72 CB DJoun Smith Florida Atlantic - 5'10"
                  74 ILB Paul Dawson TCU - I like Perryman better than Dawson but they're similar players
                  76 CB Alex Carter Stanford - Good well-rounded prospect but not a lot to fall in love with
                  87 CB Josh Shaw USC - not good enough to overcome immature and stupid move jumping off balcony or the stupid, immature massive lie trying to cover-up said stupidity.
                  89 CB Doran Grant Ohio St. - 5'10"
                  93 ILB Perryman Miami - He's moving up too I'd say. No way he makes it to the end of the 3rd.
                  101 CB Steven Nelson Oregon St. - 5'10"
                  114 CB Ifo Ekpre-OlomuInjured - 5'9" not happening
                  118 CB Rowe Utah - I think he's a Day 1 starter and the team that drafts him may never look back.
                  128 ILB Heeney Kansas - smallish but fast and way underappreciated. I'd be very tempted to grab Heeney at the end of the 3rd even if they nabbed Kendricks or Anthony earlier. A ten-year contributor in the league whether its on Special Teams and special situations on D or every down on D.
                  Good list Vince... those are a lot of the guys I've been looking at for the first few rounds.

                  I've backed off Peters altogether - just too much of a risk to take with a high pick. A lot of teams have taken him off their board.

                  I think there is a lot of good depth at CB in rds 2-3, and I think LB drops off a bit after the first few guys go. At this point I think I'd like to see us trade back a few spots and target McKinney, Anthony, or Perryman.

                  I'd be okay with any of those 3.

                  Then in the 2nd target a CB like Rowe, although he'll probably be gone by our pick in the 2nd round.

                  I haven't researched everyone on your list there, so I'll go thru them and narrow it down.

                  Thanks for the post, it makes it easier to see the names all listed together like that.
                  wist

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                  • Anthony and Rowe are my targets for this draft. IMO, they are good fits for this defense. If we can get them in the first two rounds - that would be huge. If TT can move down from the 1st into the top 5 of the 2nd, grab Anthony and an extra pick or two, then use those picks or whatever and move up in the 2nd and grab Rowe - OH, Happy day!

                    Other ILBs & CBs I like in the mid rounds:

                    ILBs
                    Ben Heeney - Kansas
                    Ramik Wilson - Georgia - (Really like this guy 4th round, if he's there in the 5th STEAL!)
                    Bryce Hager - Baylor

                    CBs
                    Justin Cox - Mississippi State
                    Randall Evans - Kansas State

                    Other Players I'm liking in the mid rounds:
                    Henry Anderson - DE - Stanford (Perfect Size for a 3-4 DE, high motor, smart - Packer People)
                    Jeff Heuerman - TE - Ohio State
                    Jesse James - TE - Penn State
                    Cedric Ogbuehi - OT - Texas A&M
                    Corey Crawford - DE - Clemson

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                    • Ogbuehi would be an awesome 4th-5th round pick. He'll redshirt 2015 with the ACL, but he was a top-50 player before the injury.

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                      • Texas A&M Commerce is the new Colorado School of Mines for Ted I guess.

                        Packer Report ‏@PackerReport 28m28 minutes ago
                        @WesHod had the news of Texas A&M-Commerce WR Ricky Collins' visit. Wait until you see my story on him later tonight.

                        Weston Hodkiewicz @WesHod · Apr 8
                        With pre-draft visits underway, #Packers are scheduled to meet with intriguing Texas A&M-Commerce WR Ricky Collins http://pck.rs/1ydJaCi
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • Mariota might suffer a Rodgers according to Charles Robinson.

                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                            This is the video that caused me to follow Hunt. It illustrates the problem I have with the draft. I watch this video and see a corner take so many shortcuts he would get roasted in the NFL. So how can you possibly project what he will do in the NFL when he has to change his game?

                            Someone was recommending this prospect as a Packer pick at CB and provided Hunt's video as evidence.
                            The guy does have some agility and foot quickness but "compares favorably to Richard Sherman"?

                            He's raw as raw can be. Like you said PB, he takes shortcuts, cheats, however you want to say it. He's like a receiver who doesn't know how to run routes yet. That guy on tape would be toast in the NFL. He'd compare favorably to Ahmad Carroll maybe. Carroll was a first rounder so he's got that going for him I guess.

                            Maybe he can develop in time but that guy's a practice squad candidate at best. First round prospect. Better than Richard Sherman. The self-proclaimed "Czar" must refer to him being czar of Fields' hometown posse.

                            And the Czar's draft would blow big chunks IMO. His 2nd round selection is ranked 639 (there are 256 picks in the draft) on CBSSports.com. His 4th round pick QB Rakeem Cato is ranked 530. Etc., etc. His future star Ron Fields doesn't make the list of 1000 prospects.

                            I'm all for out-of-the-box thinking but the Czar's so far out he doesn't even know where the box is.
                            Last edited by vince; 04-10-2015, 07:48 AM.

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                            • We only hear about the times coaches went head over heels for a terrible pro prospect. There has to be some success stories, right?

                              Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 10h10 hours ago
                              Can confirm Illinois TE Matt LaCosse making a pre-draft visit to #Packers Friday. Was a Ron Zook recruit. Ran 4.64 at #Illini pro day.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                We only hear about the times coaches went head over heels for a terrible pro prospect. There has to be some success stories, right?

                                Tom Silverstein ‏@TomSilverstein 10h10 hours ago
                                Can confirm Illinois TE Matt LaCosse making a pre-draft visit to #Packers Friday. Was a Ron Zook recruit. Ran 4.64 at #Illini pro day.
                                6'6", 258 lbs. ex-basketball star, runs the 40 in 4.64, good football intelligence, versatile, hmmmm...TT might have something here.

                                This is why I can't see TT using a high draft choice on a guy like Maxx Williams. Besides having R. Rodgers already, Williams-style TE can be had in the later rounds or UDFA easy enough.
                                One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                                John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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