OFFICIAL 2015 NFL DRAFT THREAD

[pbmax]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 24m24 minutes ago
Intent on showing his recent citation for pot won’t define him, Shane Ray is en route to Chicago for #NFLDraft. Will be in the green room

File this under. "Even if it works out, doesn't mean it was a good idea".

[Joemailman]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 24m24 minutes ago
Intent on showing his recent citation for pot won’t define him, Shane Ray is en route to Chicago for #NFLDraft. Will be in the green room

File this under. "Even if it works out, doesn't mean it was a good idea".

Maybe he got some bad information as to why they call it the green room.

[mraynrand]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 24m24 minutes ago
Intent on showing his recent citation for pot won’t define him, Shane Ray is en route to Chicago for #NFLDraft. Will be in the green room

File this under. "Even if it works out, doesn't mean it was a good idea".

Road trip!

[wist43]

One thing we do is compare players in the same draft class. One thing we don't do much of is to compare relatively unknown players already on the roster to those in the draft class.

I wonder how someone like Carl Bradford measures against, say. Dawson or Anthony.

Bradford has short arms, and didn't show much of anything last year... short arms aren't a deal breaker necessarily, but if he doesn't have some other redeeming quality suited to playing ILB, I think it will be tough for him to stick around. All he had to do in college was go forward - playing ILB asks a lot more of a player than just flying off the edge. We'll see.

Dawson looks good on tape, but my God was a bad at the combine... slow and unathletic. So which guy is he?? A stud player on the next level, or a guy who looked artificially good b/c of the level of competition??

Anthony I like... a little stiff in the hips, and don't like his ability to change direction, but other than that, he's a decent player IMO.

[wist43]

Maybe he got some bad information as to why they call it the green room.

Joe - what's wrong with that picture??

Do you see any buds on that plant??

[Rastak]

I'm gonna try and pop in here for the draft. I actually plunked down some cash for a draft guide for once. If Mad is cool I'll post entries of the picks...some really good info from Dane Brugler.


Example:


16. SAMMIE COATES | Auburn 6013|212 lbs|4JR Leroy, Ala. (Leroy HS) 3/31/1993 (age 22) #18
2011: Redshirted GRADE 3rd-4th Round 2012: (11/1) 6/114/19.0/2 MEASUREABLES Arm: 33 3/8 | Hand: 09 3/8 | Wingspan: 78 3/4 2013: (14/12) 42/902/21.5/7 COMBINE 40-YD: 4.43 | 10-YD: 1.55 | 20-YD: 2.59 | BP: 23 | VJ: 41 | BJ: 10’11” | SS: 4.06 | 3C: 6.98 | LS: 11.81 2014: (12/7) 34/741/21.8/4 PRO DAY N/A (positional drills only) Total (37/20) 82/1,757/21.4/13
BACKGROUND: A three-star wide receiver recruit out of high school, Coates originally committed to Southern Miss, but switched once Auburn offered him during the summer prior to his senior year. He redshirted in 2011 after injuring his knee and was a little-used redshirt freshman back-up in 2012, starting one game and finishing with six catches. With a new coaching staff taking over at Auburn, Coates became a starter (12 starts) in 2013 and led the Tigers with 42 receptions for 902 yards and seven touchdowns, emerging as an offensive playmaker with 14 catches of 30+ yards. He battled injuries as a junior in 2014 (seven starts), finishing with 34 catches for 741 yards and four scores, earning Second Team All-SEC honors. Despite one year left of eligibility, Coates left Auburn early for the 2015 NFL Draft. As a fourthyear junior, he participated in the 2015 Senior Bowl
STRENGTHS: Tall, chiseled frame with cut muscle definition and longer arms than several of his offensive line teammates…above average straight-line speed with swift, decisive strides to stretch defenses…shifts gears well with a second gear to easily accelerate and get behind the secondary – his ability to be a vertical threat stays in the minds of cornerbacks…strong upper body to fight off tacklers with a heavy stiff arm…dangerous after the catch with the plant-and-go burst to be slippery and elude defenders…shows the lower body explosion to elevate and highpoint…quick hands to make natural adjustments and handle fastballs…physical blocker with room to grow in this area…genuine personality who won’t find trouble off the field…averaged 21.4 yards per catch in college, proving to be a threat before and after the catch – set a school-record with 206 receiving yards in the 2014 Iron Bowl at Alabama.
WEAKNESSES: Not a natural hands-catcher and routinely fights the ball with inconsistent finishing concentration…needs to be more efficient attacking the ball away from his frame…lacks experience with the full route tree and is very unpolished in his breaks, tipping his path…needs to do a better job sinking his body and flipping his hips in tight situations…needs to develop his understanding of how to best use his body to leverage defenders – not as reliable in 50/50 situations as his size/length would suggest…struggles to improvise and work back to the quarterback, not doing enough with his skill-set to create separation…inconsistent dedication and work ethic in the past and would sometimes quit on routes…doesn’t offer special teams value…medicals need checked out – deep bone bruise to his left knee (Aug. 2014) that plagued him his entire junior year.
SUMMARY: A physical specimen with his size/speed combination, Coates has freakish ability and is clearly most comfortable on vertical routes, but can be very inconsistent on other patterns and is more of an athlete than polished pass-catcher right now. His overall focus and reliability at the catch point is a question mark as he struggles to consistently track and secure with too many drops on his résumé. Coates could have used another year in college to continue his development and work on the details of the position, but a target with his natural gifts will be coveted at the next level. His physical talent is reminiscent of a mix of Dwayne Bowe and Torrey Smith, but shouldn’t be relied upon to be anything more than a raw vertical threat as a rookie and might never be anything more unless NFL coaching can harness his athletic traits – will be drafted early, but his question marks push his value down my draft board.

[Joemailman]

Joe - what's wrong with that picture??

Do you see any buds on that plant??

I'm a good normal American. I don't know anything about that stuff.

[Joemailman]

I'm gonna try and pop in here for the draft. I actually plunked down some cash for a draft guide for once. If Mad is cool I'll post entries of the picks...some really good info from Dane Brugler.

Glad you'll be here Ras. Are the Vikings definitely going to hang on to Peterson, or could we see a draft day trade? Are Vikings going for Trae Waynes?

[Rastak]

Glad you'll be here Ras. Are the Vikings definitely going to hang on to Peterson, or could we see a draft day trade? Are Vikings going for Trae Waynes?

Ah who knows.....I don't think they will deal Peterson just because it's too hard to get value for a guy his age. I'd love to get Waynes.....although I could see them trading down. That was Spielman's comments today, we'd like to trade down. Since they are all liars this time of year I guess that means they won't.

[Joemailman]

Ah who knows.....I don't think they will deal Peterson just because it's too hard to get value for a guy his age. I'd love to get Waynes.....although I could see them trading down. That was Spielman's comments today, we'd like to trade down. Since they are all liars this time of year I guess that means they won't.

I think half the league might be trying to trade down.

[Bretsky]

Agree with Joe; everybody is going to be trying to trade down, including Ted. IMO they won't get as much in past years. Most feel draft is top heavy, picks 7-20 are about the same player, and then the next twenty are as well.

TT might be tempted to draft a player with incredible talent but troubled past....could the Nebrasks pass rusher fall or the LB who smoked week just before the draft tests fall.........or value at CB or WR...........but he'll b trying like hell to trade down.

This year is considered crazy just as deep as last year at WR

This year is considered to be one of the crappiest years ever at TE

[Rastak]

Agree with Joe; everybody is going to be trying to trade down, including Ted. IMO they won't get as much in past years. Most feel draft is top heavy, picks 7-20 are about the same player, and then the next twenty are as well.

TT might be tempted to draft a player with incredible talent but troubled past....could the Nebrasks pass rusher fall or the LB who smoked week just before the draft tests fall.........or value at CB or WR...........but he'll b trying like hell to trade down.

This year is considered crazy just as deep as last year at WR

This year is considered to be one of the crappiest years ever at TE

Seems weak at LB too.

[pbmax]

Bill Huber at gnb.scout.com opines that is there is a possibility for the Packers to trade back and get value moving out of the first round, its a trade with a team looking for a QB. His source says the Saints might be looking to grab Brett Hundley and want to have the fifth year option.

[pbmax]

There is a lot, and I mean a lot, of garbage scouting on CBs out today.

[Smidgeon]

I think half the league might be trying to trade down.

As long as the other half is trying to trade up.