More Banjo: @ Lions Week 3

[Tyrion Lannister]

http://allgbp.com/2014/09/21/mike-mc...luted-mindset/

Apparently, JerseyAl has not made the connection to the West Coast Offense that explains this mindset.

I agree with the article.

It's rare nowadays to find a team that runs the classic WCO of Walsh and Holmgren. McCarthy's modified version of the WCO has became too predictable.

Fat Mac oughta watch some films of Arizona's offense. Arians is creative.

[Joemailman]

Rodgers said in his PC said they didn't do a very good job of adjusting to the Lions defensive scheme. Whether he was talking about MM's play-calling, his own adjustments at the line of scrimmage, protection schemes, or receivers adjusting routes I'm not sure. I'm wondering what the lions did that was so hard to figure out. Were they really surprised that the Lions came out and doubled Jordy after what he did to the Jets?

[denverYooper]

Pete Damilatis @PFF_Pete 31m
Giants-Lions in Week 1 made it look like NY's offense was terrible, but maybe instead Detroit's defense is just great.

[ThunderDan]

TJ is firing on all cylinders on Twitter, too bad it wasn't true of his run block in front of the end zone.

TJ Lang @TJLang70 2h
“@kdbeeson: @NdamukongSuh works his magic with @TJLang70 early in today's Lions-Packers game. #lionspride pic.twitter.com/RGoh6XRTDW” magic?

And that is a perfect example of illegal hands to the face.

[pbmax]

Rodgers said in his PC said they didn't do a very good job of adjusting to the Lions defensive scheme. Whether he was talking about MM's play-calling, his own adjustments at the line of scrimmage, protection schemes, or receivers adjusting routes I'm not sure. I'm wondering what the lions did that was so hard to figure out. Were they really surprised that the Lions came out and doubled Jordy after what he did to the Jets?

They were planning on seeing single-high safety due to Lacy. They got 2-high and rotation over Nelson. The more alarming part is that until the last drive, there didn't seem to be plan B.

Like other purveyors of WCO, the coach is depending on winning one on one match ups in the offense due to superior preparation, execution and design. Its not happening. Trust issues, Boykin's dip in execution, Cobb not having a big role (and couple drops), no TEs.

McCarthy's faith in the system has produced players and production in areas that never looked promising. He has a track record here and he isn't going to alter the offense until midseason if past results is indicative of future performance.

[denverYooper]

I wonder if Aaron confides in Olivia that he has "trust issues".

[Maxie the Taxi]

They were planning on seeing single-high safety due to Lacy. They got 2-high and rotation over Nelson. The more alarming part is that until the last drive, there didn't seem to be plan B.

Like other purveyors of WCO, the coach is depending on winning one on one match ups in the offense due to superior preparation, execution and design. Its not happening. Trust issues, Boykin's dip in execution, Cobb not having a big role (and couple drops), no TEs.

McCarthy's faith in the system has produced players and production in areas that never looked promising. He has a track record here and he isn't going to alter the offense until midseason if past results is indicative of future performance.

That's why we call him Stubby.

[Tyrion Lannister]

I'm wondering what the lions did that was so hard to figure out.

Detriot didn't do anything McCarthy, Rodgers and Co. weren't familiar with. Pretty much did what Seattle and SF like to do.

Cover-2, pressure QB with 4-men rush, stop run without putting a saftey in the box. Arizona, with Drew Fucking Stanton, and SD were able to beat these types of defenses in past weeks.

Fat Mac is too stupid to adjust, too stubborn to alter his predictable offense. Rodgers is playing like a bum. Lucy is playing like a bum.

When your OFFENSE gave up more points than it scored, that's a recipe for disaster.

[pbmax]

That's why we call him Stubby.

Taken to an appropriate length, its a strength. Terrible coaches (think about Ray Rhodes in 1999) are always changing things up and altering the focus of the team.

Refusal to change gives you Marty Schottenheimer, Steve Spurrier or Jim Schwartz.

However, its clear, whether its Boykin, Cobb, the TEs or run blocking, that the offense that is out there is not doing what he expects it to be capable of. Whether it will or expectations need to be altered is TBD.

[pbmax]

Detriot didn't do anything McCarthy, Rodgers and Co. weren't familiar with. Pretty much did what Seattle and SF like to do.

Cover-2, pressure QB with 4-men rush, stop run without putting a saftey in the box. Arizona, with Drew Fucking Stanton, and SD were able to beat these types of defenses in past weeks.

Fat Mac is too stupid to adjust, too stubborn to alter his predictable offense. Rodgers is playing like a bum. Lucy is playing like a bum.

When your OFFENSE gave up more points than it scored, that's a recipe for disaster.

Seattle plays single-high safety with Thomas back and human cyborg Chancellor up on the LOS. Agree on last point. Nothing tells the story of that game like that fact.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Seattle plays single-high safety with Thomas back and human cyborg Chancellor up on the LOS. Agree on last point. Nothing tells the story of that game like that fact.

You are probably right with Seattle. They have good corners that can play man. But from what I've seen, they're pretty much a 4 men rush team on passing downs. Their LBs can cover.

[MadScientist]

Rodgers said in his PC said they didn't do a very good job of adjusting to the Lions defensive scheme. Whether he was talking about MM's play-calling, his own adjustments at the line of scrimmage, protection schemes, or receivers adjusting routes I'm not sure. I'm wondering what the lions did that was so hard to figure out. Were they really surprised that the Lions came out and doubled Jordy after what he did to the Jets?

Especially since they even said they were going to make sure they knew were Jordy was on every play. They have no other receiver at the moment. Cobb has played himself out of a big second contract, either because he lost a step from the injury or is at best an average #3. Boykin has regressed to the point of just being a special teamer, and Adams makes too many mistakes for Rodgers. All the tight ends combined aren't worth a bucket of shit. Fuck it, start activating Janis and give him one or two routes and see if he can make a play here or there. Somebody has to do something or this season is fucked.

[Joemailman]

Stephen Tulloch tore his ACL on his sack celebration/discount doublecheck/belt/taunt. http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/09/22/det...lebrating-sack

[denverYooper]

Rob Demovsky @RobDemovsky 3m
MM: Pass protection unit did a good job. Perimeter had six drops. "We have to catch the ball much better."

Going off of memory, I had Boykin and Cobb each with 2, Adams with 1?

Plus at least 1 communication breakdown each btw Rodgers-Boykin and Rodgers-Adams.

Does Starks's drop count?

[denverYooper]

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 9m
McCarthy on Rodgers' comments about GB problems adjusting: The only correction I'd make is attacking it sooner, attacking their 2 deep.

Paul Imig @Paulimig 3m
McCarthy when asked whether Rodgers can change run to pass: "Scheme is not a crutch. Execution … was clearly not good enough." #Packers

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 3m
McCarthy: "If you have a run, and they're playing two deep, you should be able to run the ball. That's elementary football."

Paul Imig @Paulimig 2m
McCarthy: "Eddie (Lacy) needs to play better. … Running game wasn't what it needed to be. Not even close." #Packers

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne 1m
McCarthy: "Eddie needs to play better. I don't correct individuals in the media."

Ryan Wood @ByRyanWood 4m
MM on Eddie Lacy: "Eddie needs to play better."
Then he paused.
"I'm not going to do this anymore. I don't correct individuals in media."