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  • #31
    Then they go off the rails.

    Matt Bowen ‏@MattBowen41 48m
    @AaronNagler @smartfootball @SI_DougFarrar W/O movement & multiple personnel groupings, the D doesn't have to adjust. Just line up & play.

    Chris B. Brown ‏@smartfootball 10m
    @MattBowen41 @AaronNagler @SI_DougFarrar You have to do one or the other. Tempo or be multiple. Can't let Ds tee off. And it's not like they

    SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 2m
    And there it is. RT @smartfootball @MattBowen41 @AaronNagler You have to do one or the other. Tempo or be multiple.


    Manning's offense with the Colts didn't sub out of 11 personnel, and he called everything at the LOS. He would dummy signal and if the D shifted, he adjusted again.

    Its not the tempo, its the fact the only player Rodgers can call that last adjustment with a hand signal to is Nelson. Should be Cobb too, but he has been pedestrian. Adams and Boykin take turns either missing a signal or dropping a pass. If this doesn't change, or if they don't figure out a way to change the routes en masse, then I think they have to go back to multiple.
    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by pbmax View Post
      Telll me which on is the coach:
      It's all on the coach. And he's comfortable with it... http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...-run-no-huddle

      But it does not sound like McCarthy is ready to make any significant changes -- either in personnel or scheme -- heading into Sunday’s game at the Chicago Bears.

      "Our offense really isn't where we would like it to be," McCarthy said. "Whether we're in no-huddle or whether we’re in what we call standard huddle, mechanically what we’re doing I'm comfortable with."
      One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
      John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
        It's all on the coach. And he's comfortable with it... http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-pa...-run-no-huddle
        That was supposed to say "one" as in, which Twitter user was a coach. But your post is a great find regardless.
        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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        • #34
          The idea of using the same formation 78% of the time seems almost neanderthal. The Bears have a defensive secondary in a state of flux. I would think being able to face the same offensive alignment over and over would be a help to them. We'll see.
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
            The idea of using the same formation 78% of the time seems almost neanderthal. The Bears have a defensive secondary in a state of flux. I would think being able to face the same offensive alignment over and over would be a help to them. We'll see.
            A lot depends on what they do with the personnel. You can run any number of things with 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR) but they were caught running a lot of deep routes versus the Lions Cover 2. If they can get to a better play call, then I don't care about the personnel package.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              A lot depends on what they do with the personnel. You can run any number of things with 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR) but they were caught running a lot of deep routes versus the Lions Cover 2. If they can get to a better play call, then I don't care about the personnel package.
              Jordy, Cobb, Boykin and Quarless ain't exactly Jennings, Jordy, Jones and Finley though. I think they're kind of limited with what they can do because Cobb isn't very well suited for playing outside, and Quarless isn't as flexible as Finley. They're less talented and in my opinion somewhat more predictable.

              By the way, when Boykin filled in so well when Cobb was hurt last year, did he line up primarily in the slot? I'm just wondering if his reduced effectiveness is due to having to play outside more.
              I can't run no more
              With that lawless crowd
              While the killers in high places
              Say their prayers out loud
              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
              A thundercloud
              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                By the way, when Boykin filled in so well when Cobb was hurt last year, did he line up primarily in the slot? I'm just wondering if his reduced effectiveness is due to having to play outside more.
                McGinn on Cobb in Detroit:

                Not once did Cobb line up outside. All day long he had the slot two-way go against the Lions' fifth and sixth nickel backs, Danny Gorrer and Mohammed Seisay. A hard grader would give Cobb two drops. More alarming was the fact he couldn't beat these newly arrived free agents like a drum. Playing slot in this offense with this quarterback should be a ticket to enormous production and the stardom that goes with that. But Cobb's ho-hum play throughout training camp has carried over into the regular season.
                Edit: "Now I see" said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
                You were referring to Boykins having success last year in the slot.
                Last edited by Harlan Huckleby; 09-25-2014, 07:13 PM.

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                • #38


                  One other thing that isn't helping Rodgers' case: he's tied with Joe Flacco for the league's highest percentage of dropped passes at 9.8. Not all of the inaccuracy has been the fault of Rodgers' receivers -- Rodgers has underthrown several deep routes this season -- but that doesn't help.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                    Jordy, Cobb, Boykin and Quarless ain't exactly Jennings, Jordy, Jones and Finley though. I think they're kind of limited with what they can do because Cobb isn't very well suited for playing outside, and Quarless isn't as flexible as Finley. They're less talented and in my opinion somewhat more predictable.

                    By the way, when Boykin filled in so well when Cobb was hurt last year, did he line up primarily in the slot? I'm just wondering if his reduced effectiveness is due to having to play outside more.
                    Jordy played the slot.
                    Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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