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  • #12 Tells People To "Relax!"

    Some say he sounded kind of condescending; but with the season being a marathon not a sprint, and with GB making playoffs after starting 1-2 past seasons, I concur. He did decent job of detailing the team's current issues and intimated practical remedies in this same sound bite.

    Not sure why so many people on this forum panic so quickly when there are nearly no great teams (teams with stellar offense and defenses simultaneously). So the goal is often to develop into a team heading into the stretch run. Although not the best personnel, GBs issues are so fixable.
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    I wouldn't describe my reaction as panicky by a long stretch. But I do see some differences between this year's slow start and others, so while I get the point about the season being a marathon and not a sprint, not all 1-2 starts are the same. This one in particular has had some unexpected problems that haven't yet been explained, let alone solved: Lacy's struggle to match last year's production (despite MM's predictions that this could be the best OL group he has coached), Cobb's apparent inability to get open, Boykins's dropsies, non-production from the TE position. Maybe some or all of that gets corrected, but each of these has come as a surprise and none of them have a clear fix that I am aware of.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by hoosier View Post
      I wouldn't describe my reaction as panicky by a long stretch. But I do see some differences between this year's slow start and others, so while I get the point about the season being a marathon and not a sprint, not all 1-2 starts are the same. This one in particular has had some unexpected problems that haven't yet been explained, let alone solved: Lacy's struggle to match last year's production (despite MM's predictions that this could be the best OL group he has coached), Cobb's apparent inability to get open, Boykins's dropsies, non-production from the TE position. Maybe some or all of that gets corrected, but each of these has come as a surprise and none of them have a clear fix that I am aware of.
      The 1-2 starts are similar in regard to the strength of the opponent. The difference is that it's the offense that is struggling more than the defense. Last year, the offense was still scoring 30 points/game in the first 3 games while the defense was giving up 30 points/game in the 1-2 start. This is actually more similar to 2012--when the offense got off to a slow start and the defense was playing okay. In all three years we lost to a very good team on the road (at Seattle, at San Francisco, and at Seattle), beat a mediocre team (Chicago, Washington, NY Jets), and lost to what looks to be pretty good teams in the other game (San Francisco, Cincinnati, Detroit). I'd feel a lot better if we beat Chicago though. If so, we can run off a 3-4 game winning streak and things will look a lot better. If we lose to Chicago, it's going to be hard to come back but not impossible (mainly because we can make up for the losses to Chicago and Detroit with home victories against those teams later in the year).
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      • #4
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Infamous View Post
          Some say he sounded kind of condescending; but with the season being a marathon not a sprint, and with GB making playoffs after starting 1-2 past seasons, I concur. He did decent job of detailing the team's current issues and intimated practical remedies in this same sound bite.

          Not sure why so many people on this forum panic so quickly when there are nearly no great teams (teams with stellar offense and defenses simultaneously). So the goal is often to develop into a team heading into the stretch run. Although not the best personnel, GBs issues are so fixable.


          In the past, I have been more optimistic about the 1-2 starts, especially last year when the defense started off pretty well. But for some reason, I am more baffled and more irked by this team's slow start. I don't know if it's that MM talked up this offensive line so much, yet Rodgers has been under pressure a lot already, or if it's that Eddie Lacey seems to have inexplicably regressed, or if it's that despite all the hype about the defensive changes, this defense still broke down early against Seattle and New York and couldn't stop Detroit when they needed to late (looked just like last year), or if it's the invisible tight ends, or if its Randall Cobb's inability to get open, or if it's that this team is (knock on wood) healthy so far and they STILL suck.

          But I will try to take Aaron Rodgers's advice.

          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

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          • #6
            Where's Harlan. He probably digs some FgtH
            Originally posted by 3irty1
            This is museum quality stupidity.

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            • #7
              I think this looks like a 10-6, one-and-done team. I'll take it.

              The offensive line is not playing badly, they are not the problem. They need to "gel" as they say, but individually I like all 5.

              I heard somewhere that Bostic is not playing because he has stumbled in practice.

              I think they need to activate all 5 wide receivers and find three players that produce. Give Bostic a try. With a little more experimentation, they'll come up with a combo of receivers that is an upgrade, if unspectacular.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
                I think this looks like a 10-6, one-and-done team. I'll take it.

                The offensive line is not playing badly, they are not the problem. They need to "gel" as they say, but individually I like all 5.

                I heard somewhere that Bostic is not playing because he has stumbled in practice.

                I think they need to activate all 5 wide receivers and find three players that produce. Give Bostic a try. With a little more experimentation, they'll come up with a combo of receivers that is an upgrade, if unspectacular.
                Optimistic aren't you? If they look as flat and unprepared Sunday as they have so far, I doubt they make the playoffs.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                  Optimistic aren't you? If they look as flat and unprepared Sunday as they have so far, I doubt they make the playoffs.
                  If they struggle with the Bears defense, which is a big step down from the first 3 Ds they've faced, then I'll adjust my expectations.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                    Optimistic aren't you? If they look as flat and unprepared Sunday as they have so far, I doubt they make the playoffs.
                    Almost everyone here is more optimistic than you. I'm not panicking either because it is early in the season.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                      Almost everyone here is more optimistic than you. I'm not panicking either because it is early in the season.
                      So if they look absolutely terrible this weekend, will you be worried?

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                      • #12
                        Nothing about pro football worries or scares me. It's entertainment only.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #13
                          I think what has me a little concerned is the amount of time in the first 3 games that the Packers have trailed by double digits. Last year when they started out 1-2, they had a blowout win over the Redskins sandwiched by two very close road losses to playoff teams. I was frustrated that they were 1-2, because I felt they could have very easily been 3-0. This year I'm just relieved that they're not 0-3.
                          I can't run no more
                          With that lawless crowd
                          While the killers in high places
                          Say their prayers out loud
                          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                          A thundercloud
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                          • #14
                            Would be nice to get a home game once in a while too.

                            I really think the key here is getting some production out of the TE. Most of your top notch offenses in this day and age have a very good TE option to create mismatches. Bostick could be it.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by VegasPackFan View Post
                              Would be nice to get a home game once in a while too.

                              I really think the key here is getting some production out of the TE. Most of your top notch offenses in this day and age have a very good TE option to create mismatches. Bostick could be it.
                              Not this week. MM's comments at his PC sound like Bostick is not a part of the offensive game plan right now. Sounds like he's in the doghouse right now.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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