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  • #16
    Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
    The decision was standard. There is enough time to take a shot and still get a field goal. Tresseman would have been called a pussy if he didn't take a shot, and rightly so. The TE fucked up by not taking is route deeper into the endzone before coming back for the ball.
    With 9 seconds, he was more than taking his chances, especially with the call he made.

    A pass to the back corner of the endzone I could understand, but over the middle to the TE? Tackled in the field of play, those 9 seconds went away pretty quickly.
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    Imagine for a moment a world without hypothetical situations...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Guiness View Post
      With 9 seconds, he was more than taking his chances, especially with the call he made.

      A pass to the back corner of the endzone I could understand, but over the middle to the TE? Tackled in the field of play, those 9 seconds went away pretty quickly.
      The TE flattened the route. It was supposed to go into the endzone before coming back a little. Nothing wrong with throwing to an open TE in the endzone, even if it is over the middle. Given the situation, the back corner is going to be really hard to get open, so the middle is a good bet. The TE fucked up, plain and simple. I can't fault Cutler because from his position he couldn't tell the difference. (Yeesh I'm defending Cutler, that has to be a sign of the apocalypse.) If the TE goes 1-2 yards deeper like he was supposed to, we're spending today bitching about the coverage and not the decision.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
        The TE flattened the route. It was supposed to go into the endzone before coming back a little. Nothing wrong with throwing to an open TE in the endzone, even if it is over the middle. Given the situation, the back corner is going to be really hard to get open, so the middle is a good bet. The TE fucked up, plain and simple. I can't fault Cutler because from his position he couldn't tell the difference. (Yeesh I'm defending Cutler, that has to be a sign of the apocalypse.) If the TE goes 1-2 yards deeper like he was supposed to, we're spending today bitching about the coverage and not the decision.
        For sure. D allowed the completion, and there is a 50-50 chance he did actually score. Dude's got long arms, and reached for the goal line. Luckily, Hyde was blocking the camera view, so the review amounted to nothing, and the call on the field stood!

        I'm not sure if he flattened his route, or if there was coverage where he wanted to be, would have to watch again.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by run pMc View Post
          I dunno -- it was aggressive, which you want. I think Trestman saw Rodgers was on fire and GB was getting the ball for the 2nd half KO, so he knew it would be tough to keep pace, especially with FG's.

          I have more issue with the execution -- if Bennett doesn't flatten his route it's a TD. Plus, Cutler has giants in Marshall and Jeffries; so it's not like he doesn't have other RZ weapons to target.
          This. All day. That series + the onsides kick was Trestman doing what M3 does when the Packers D can't stop the other team.
          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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          • #20
            It was 4 cm from being a TD. It was a good chance to take.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by pbmax View Post
              It was 4 cm from being a TD. It was a good chance to take.
              It looked to me that the TE didn't have control of the ball because he bobbled it and didn't get control until he was half a yard from the end zone.
              But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

              -Tim Harmston

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                It looked to me that the TE didn't have control of the ball because he bobbled it and didn't get control until he was half a yard from the end zone.
                From the one angle it did look like he was bobbling it as he reached across. If the ball crossed the goal line, he possibly didn't have possession of it at that time. Play stands as called was the correct call to make post review.

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                • #23
                  SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 33m33 minutes ago
                  Packers formation-diverse vs. CHI. They'd run 11 personnel 76% thru 3 games, but went heavy 12 base & more WR wrinkles. Made a difference.

                  SI_DougFarrar ‏@SI_DougFarrar 30m30 minutes ago
                  Second-quarter TD to Cobb came out of a two-slot WR package Packers used a few times. Created iso matchups vs. man coverage. Go figure!
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • #24
                    Jarad Allen reportedly lost 18 pounds with a bout of pneumonia:
                    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ith-pneumonia/

                    While I'm not sorry the Packers missed facing him, that's some serious shit. As long as he gets the time to get back in shape, there should be no lasting effects.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ThunderDan View Post
                      It looked to me that the TE didn't have control of the ball because he bobbled it and didn't get control until he was half a yard from the end zone.
                      Maybe. But consider an alternate scenario. I would bet you that loose ball control that was clearly over the line (plus control of ball when on the ground) would yield a TD call that would stand up to being reversed. Of course, I am probably forgetting about the rules section that covers this exact scenario that might render my argument moot.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        Bob McGinn ‏@BobMcGinn 5m5 minutes ago
                        The #Packers' roster has stood at 52 players for 13 days now.

                        Maybe he's shopping for a DT.
                        When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
                          Bob McGinn ‏@BobMcGinn 5m5 minutes ago
                          The #Packers' roster has stood at 52 players for 13 days now.

                          Maybe he's shopping for a DT.
                          Another sign of TT's cheapness

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by hoosier View Post
                            Another sign of TT's cheapness
                            He's waiting for double coupon day.
                            When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Lions Game
                              It is simple. In the NFL it is all about matchups. In the Detroit loss, the Lions defense started the game in a coverage that dared the Green Bay Packers to run the ball. The Lions used a Cover 2 defense with a mere six guys in the box to defend the run against the Packers (screen shot number 1).

                              The Packers seeing this, thought it would be the ideal defense to run against (it usually is based on math alone). First snap, hand the ball to Eddie Lacy, three yard gain. Second snap, hand the ball to Eddie Lacy again, fumble, Lions pick up the fumble and score a TD. The next series the Packers again ran the ball their first two plays without much success.
                              Originally posted by Bears Game
                              The Chicago Bears, on the other hand, didn’t have the same confidence in their defensive line devoid of the presence and toughness of Jared Allen, so they opted to utilize the single-high safety defense for the first part of the game (Screen Shot 2 below).

                              You know when Rodgers & Co. saw that single-high defense, they all began to smile ear to ear knowing very well their fortunes would change this week. They love that coverage because they know that can eat it up with timing routes like the slant-flat route combination that Jordy Neslon and Aaron Rodgers have mastered over the years ( third Screen shot).
                              Solution? Skip the run (unless you want to run zone and put Starks in), put in Harris and throw it to middle of field and the flats.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                http://www.footballbyfootball.com/co...-high-coverage





                                Solution? Skip the run (unless you want to run zone and put Starks in), put in Harris and throw it to middle of field and the flats.

                                This was Mike Holmgren's running game, particularly his first few years in GB.
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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