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  • #16
    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
    "playing into shape"

    Pro football players don't play into shape during regular season. Lacy is not going to get quicker. How did he look better in preseason if he is only now playing into shape?
    Guys always lose mass over the course of the season. Linemen always bulk up and drop a bunch of weight. There's a non-slim chance that the staff asked him to come in at a certain weight knowing he would be where they want in the latter half of the season when they would need him at his best. If they truly were disappointed over his size coming in, he would not be playing as much.
    When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by denverYooper View Post
      Richard Rodgers had one of the greatest plays of the game, hustling downfield to paste a defender on Cobb's 46 yard reception in the 4th Q.
      http://instagram.com/p/tgG0LSpkAi/
      Originally posted by 3irty1
      This is museum quality stupidity.

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      • #18
        I think calling it pimps and hoes is stupid as hell, so...

        Studs- Rodgers, Jordy, Cobb, and last but far from least Hawk, about the only one that can tackle well on a regular basis.

        Duds- Run D, Capers, Stubby (just because I want to see Starks get some time), the NFL for not drug testing the officials.

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        • #19
          I personally think the deal with Lacy is 2 things. 1- Stubby doesn't know how to use him, and B- I think Lacy may have backed off slightly fearing injury/more concussions.

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          • #20
            I have to agree with Mission and was thinking the same thing about Lacy. He looked all world in the pre-season. The only thing that I can think of is the concussion? Is he playing scared at this point? You don't get in WORSE shape after pre-season and he looked great then.

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            • #21
              Studs: AR, Nelson, Pass Protection, Mastay

              Duds: Lacy, Lacy, Lacy, Defensive front 7, MM, Slocum, Brad Jones, House, basically the entire defense except for maybe 3 plays which is usually enough against Cutler if AR is on.

              Terrible game for the Pack on Defense. Just bad. I know mid season trades are not the norm but we need NFL Caliber block eaters. This front 7 is terrible. CMIII is playing and looking hurt, Peppers is getting better at the stand up position and I liked Lattimore actually playing down hill SOME plays. Hawk looked terrible except when his helmet fell of 37.6 times this game, get a damn chin strap sloth.

              Offense was AR throwing the ball and Jordy making plays. Cobb had a big game but missed a pass in the redzone that he should have caught. Lacy is pathetic when he tries to dance, on cut and hit the freaking hole! Starks needs the looks here in my opinion. He isnt getting the looks so he must have kicked MMs dog or something. Adams looked passable, R2 looked ok as a TE but needs time.

              Refs: WHAT THE HELL. Seriously I think we came out on top of the phantom calls however they were worse than the replacement guys. Did they have a couple of pitchers in the parking lot before the game?

              In the battle of two middling teams we out middled the Bears. I have no doubt the Vikes can route the Pack next week with Asiata and McKinnon against our girlscouts in the middle.
              Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post

                I disagree that he can't catch the football, he's passable.
                Lacy doesn't seem to run any routes other than that 2 yards up the middle route after chipping a defender. He's slow after the catch. Like Kuhn, Lacy doesn't scare any MLB as a receiver.

                With Harris, it's eight yards a pop at minimum. Harris would make a good 3rd down back, a la Sproles.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                  Studs: AR, Nelson, Pass Protection, Mastay

                  Duds: Lacy, Lacy, Lacy, Defensive front 7, MM, Slocum, Brad Jones, House, basically the entire defense except for maybe 3 plays which is usually enough against Cutler if AR is on.

                  Terrible game for the Pack on Defense. Just bad. I know mid season trades are not the norm but we need NFL Caliber block eaters. This front 7 is terrible. CMIII is playing and looking hurt, Peppers is getting better at the stand up position and I liked Lattimore actually playing down hill SOME plays. Hawk looked terrible except when his helmet fell of 37.6 times this game, get a damn chin strap sloth.

                  Offense was AR throwing the ball and Jordy making plays. Cobb had a big game but missed a pass in the redzone that he should have caught. Lacy is pathetic when he tries to dance, on cut and hit the freaking hole! Starks needs the looks here in my opinion. He isnt getting the looks so he must have kicked MMs dog or something. Adams looked passable, R2 looked ok as a TE but needs time.

                  Refs: WHAT THE HELL. Seriously I think we came out on top of the phantom calls however they were worse than the replacement guys. Did they have a couple of pitchers in the parking lot before the game?

                  In the battle of two middling teams we out middled the Bears. I have no doubt the Vikes can route the Pack next week with Asiata and McKinnon against our girlscouts in the middle.
                  Masthay a pimp, err, stud? All he did was hold for fgs/pats.

                  I think the Packers need an awesome ILB more than they need a fat, block eater.

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                  • #24
                    Ray Lewis was considered on his way down until Ngata was drafted and started eating blockers.

                    Mathay was a Stud since he DIDN'T have to punt, tongue and cheek there, I also Blamed Brad Jones
                    Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                      Ray Lewis was considered on his way down until Ngata was drafted and started eating blockers.

                      Mathay was a Stud since he DIDN'T have to punt, tongue and cheek there, I also Blamed Brad Jones
                      Urlacher never had a Ngata, and he was awesome.

                      I subscribe to the theory that any competent fat man could eat blocks. An awesome ILB like Urlacher, Willis and that guy in Carolina would make any defense fierce to the bone.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Tyrion Lannister View Post
                        Urlacher never had a Ngata, and he was awesome.

                        I subscribe to the theory that any competent fat man could eat blocks. An awesome ILB like Urlacher, Willis and that guy in Carolina would make any defense fierce to the bone.
                        Im not going to look it up but always seemed to me that the Bears had a solid front 4.
                        Swede: My expertise in this area is extensive. The essential difference between a "battleship" and an "aircraft carrier" is that an aircraft carrier requires five direct hits to sink, but it takes only four direct hits to sink a battleship.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Tony Oday View Post
                          Im not going to look it up but always seemed to me that the Bears had a solid front 4.
                          Peppers, Tommie Harris, Adams, Idonije. No group of slouches.
                          When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                          • #28
                            Hopefully the offense continues shaking off their rust. The offense only looks like its running about about 70% right now, despite what the scoreboard says. If the Bears aren't shooting themselves in the foot with a chain fed weapon of incompetence, this is a close game. With some help from the refs, the bears consistently found ways to bail us out.

                            Rodgers and Jordy were studs. I appreciate a guy who catches nothing but TD's but I didn't think that guy would be Cobb. I'd still like to see him more involved, breaking tackles, and not leaving plays on the field. It may seem like a harsh evaluation but I think his play still seems like one of the most likely ways for this team to improve. This week was a big improvment for him but he's got a lot more potential IMO.

                            Lacy's performance is disappointing but I don't think the problem is with his conditioning or his fear of injury. I'd like to see how many yards he has after first contact, he's hit way too often in the backfield and has to bounce things outside that aren't designed to go outside. A lot of the success he's had are in designed cutbacks. He looks like a giant Brandon Jackson right now, both the good and the bad. He's completely displaced Kuhn as a pass blocker. I need to watch the all-22 to get some different angles.

                            I'm surprised to see as many laments for the defense. You'd never guess it from just watching the Bears/Packers matchups but the Bears have what is widely considered a great offense. Easily the best we've faced. Our defense took advantage of every mistake they made and I was extremely impressed with their performance holding Chicago to a field goal in the beginning of the 2nd quarter. I don't think anybody thought Chicago wasn't getting into the endzone after that PI call led to first and goal at the 1. It took 5 good plays to make that stand against a team with two enormous top 10 WR and a top 5 RB. I understand its frustrating to watch them put Bennett and Forte into the probowl but the stat that matters is points and the Packers held this offense to well below its average PPG.

                            Tramon Williams is having a great year and we have an embarrassment of riches at corner in general. Datone Jones looks better each week, I'm starting to see why he was a first round pick.
                            70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                            • #29
                              3irty1, do you really think the Bears offense is better than Seattle's?

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rutnstrut View Post
                                3irty1, do you really think the Bears offense is better than Seattle's?
                                Yes.

                                After Denver, the Bears were secretly a distant 2nd in the league in points last year despite Cutler missing 5 games. Most Packer fans have a very skewed picture of Jay Cutler because Capers has always had Cutler's number. The rest of the world thinks enough of him to give him the 6th best MVP odds in Vegas, tied with Kaepernick and Wilson. The rest of that offense speaks for itself. Its the best WR tandem in football and also a top 5 running back. They are clearly much better than Seattle's offense.
                                70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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