Raiders Fire Dennis Allen

[Joemailman]

Yer right, OH Mailman.

He's only been there since 2012, but he's had his share of screw-ups since then.

Let's start with the Matt twins at QB. Flynn and Schaub, 14 mil or so right down the dumper on that pair.

Reggie's got to rally or he'll be toast soon, like the off season.

You're right there. Wolf hired Holmgren and traded for Favre. Thompson drafted Rodgers and hired McCarthy. There are some things you can get wrong and still be a successful GM. But you have to get the head coach and the quarterback right.

[Guiness]

Yup, RM is in some do-do there. Agreed that he had to sort out an incredible mess, but most of what he's touched hasn't turned out too wonderfully either. He didn't overpay for Palmer, but was in charge of the brigade that got rid of him when they had nothing else in place. And he's doing not badly in Arizona.

He better hope they don't have to rally this season, because I don't see it happening with that crew. Dolphins QB looked like an all-worlder against them.

[denverYooper]

You're right there. Wolf hired Holmgren and traded for Favre. Thompson drafted Rodgers and hired McCarthy. There are some things you can get wrong and still be a successful GM. But you have to get the head coach and the quarterback right.

Schneider paid Flynn and drafted Wilson. It's nice for him that Wilson turned out to be a stud.

Dorsey traded for Alex Smith.

Stability at the QB position is the first priority for all of these guys. McKenzie keeps striking out on that account.

[Joemailman]

Schneider paid Flynn and drafted Wilson. It's nice for him that Wilson turned out to be a stud.

Dorsey traded for Alex Smith.

Stability at the QB position is the first priority for all of these guys. McKenzie keeps striking out on that account.

Well, we don't know if he's struck out with Derek Carr. There will be a push for McKenzie to hire Gruden as coach, but he should hire a coach who can develop his young quarterback.

[smuggler]

Isn't Jon Gruden supposed to be a bit of a QB guru?

[Carolina_Packer]

Isn't Jon Gruden supposed to be a bit of a QB guru?

Not according to his former QB Shaun King: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-quarterbacks/

[KYPack]

It's Sporano. (Don't eat the onion rings, Tony)

This is interesting in that supposedly Mark (baby Al) Davis preferred Al Saunders.

The ice may be getting thinner.

[pbmax]

Is Dennis Allen a good DC? Might be a candidate for our vacancy in the offseason.

I think he used to be an OC, not DC.

[pbmax]

Isn't Jon Gruden supposed to be a bit of a QB guru?

He has done best with vets he resurrects (Brad Johnson and Rich Gannon).

[VegasPackFan]

McKenzie has done just as bad of a job as Allen and should probably be let go as well. He drafted a DJ Hayden last year in the 1st round I think? Guy had major heart issues and has hardly played to date. The Matt Flynn/Matt Schaub moves were horrendous. Neither ends up playing more than a game? Re-signing McFadden to a 1 year contract and bringing in MJD on a FA deal.

Also, how does an team clearly re-building end up with oldest average age in the NFL? He should go just for that.

Allen was supposed to be a good DC, so NO! WE DONT WANT THAT!! Their D is putrid. That is probably both the GM and HC on that. They need to clear house entirely.

[Joemailman]

Mike Holmgren visited Raiders. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ont-coach-them

[Tyrion Lannister]

The Raiders' next head coach will be....

Darell Bevell.

You read it here first.

[Freak Out]

The Raiders' next head coach will be....

Darell Bevell.

You read it here first.

That would not surprise me at all....wait...its the Raiders so they will fuck it up again.

[Guiness]

I've seen Josh McDaniels mentioned. Hey Zeus, that would be a hot mess.