Cobb

[Tony Oday]

Is it just me or is he hurting his chances for a monster contract. He seems to be, at least this year, a product of AR instead of being a top flight WR.

[Tony Oday]

And yes he has a ton of TDs this year but it just "seems" different this year.

[gbgary]

a lot of shit is "just different" this year than last. running game, Rodgers (early on), too much shot-gun, dicey deep balls instead of open/easy underneath stuff (nearly got jordy killed yesterday), just to name a few.

[Joemailman]

I think what's different is that the Packers don't have a TE in the lineup who can stretch the middle of the field. Cobb is drawing more attention than ever before. It's just a different offense than it's been. The Packers are 19th in the NFL in passing YPG, but they're getting by because Rodgers is ridiculously good in the red zone. Cobb is a big part of that.

[Tony Oday]

But is he doing anything that warrants a big contract? Was James Jones that important?

[MadScientist]

First couple of weeks Cobb was invisible, but he's been better since. The offer that he gets will probably be decent simply because the Packers need 3+ good options. Boykin has looked like less than nothing this year and Janis doesn't have Rodgers trust yet. He won't get Jordy money from anyone, so the Packers have a decent shot at re-signing him.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I know ARod's stats are great, but I think it's obvious we miss Finley (and probably James Jones for the first few games, but I think Adams is stating to give us what Jones gave us). The threat of Finley opened things up on offense. The offense's ability (ARod's ability) to convert in the red zone so far this year is masking a lot of deficiencies on offense. Plus, the turnovers are helping the offense in the points scored department.

[Joemailman]

I know ARod's stats are great, but I think it's obvious we miss Finley (and probably James Jones for the first few games, but I think Adams is stating to give us what Jones gave us). The threat of Finley opened things up on offense. The offense's ability (ARod's ability) to convert in the red zone so far this year is masking a lot of deficiencies on offense. Plus, the turnovers are helping the offense in the points scored department.

Packers are 26th offensively in YPG, and 8th in PPG. That can't continue forever. Bostick must really be in the doghouse, because he has a skill set they could really use.

[Bretsky]

Cobb is getting no separation.....and they really really miss Jmike. Even though he underperformed for us he was light years better than what we have.

[Bossman641]

Cobb is coming on. I'd still like to see him break a long one and get some yac but he's coming along.

[KYPack]

Cobb is coming on. I'd still like to see him break a long one and get some yac but he's coming along.

Yeah, I think the leg is healing.

At the start, he was missing some shake and speed.

[smuggler]

I'm willing to give him until the later part of the season before I consider him diminished.

[Patler]

TE situation is not really much different this year than it was last year. Finley only played 5+ games last year, then was done for the season. Finley not being here at all this year is not the reason for the offense's struggles.

Cobb had 31 catches last year in the six games he played. He has 29 this year in six games. His yardage is less, but his TDs are up.

Cobb is what he has always been for them, a guy that doesn't do much in the play as designed, but stands out when a play breaks down, or Rodgers extends a play beyond its original design. MCGinn wrote about it during TC:

Rodgers ... also has said Cobb was one of a kind when it comes to breaking off routes and getting free when Rodgers flees the pocket.

In 2012, Rodgers was on the move on nine of Cobb's 17 receptions for 20 yards or more. Last season, six of Cobb's eight 20-plus catches came with the quarterback scrambling.

That means that a full 60% of Cobb's longest receptions in 2012-'13 (15 of 25) came after adjustments from his designed route. In contrast, merely 13.3% of Nelson's receptions (four of 30) worth 20 yards or more came on scrambles.

A review of Nelson's big plays the past two years shows a series of takeoffs, deep comebacks, seams, back-shoulders, digs, overs and hitches. He was an outside receiver until Cobb went down last year and then, for the first time, played substantially inside.

[gbgary]

I think what's different is that the Packers don't have a TE in the lineup who can stretch the middle of the field. Cobb is drawing more attention than ever before. It's just a different offense than it's been. The Packers are 19th in the NFL in passing YPG, but they're getting by because Rodgers is ridiculously good in the red zone. Cobb is a big part of that.

was told yesterday that te was open a lot yesterday but Rodgers chose not to go to him. Read somewhere that Q even told AR he was open all the time. I'd trade a two-snap, big play drive (that we always seem to be going for) for a ten play drive that eats the clock, and rests the d, once in a while. if they're giving us the short/med routes we should take them and sustain drives.

[pbmax]

Packers are 26th offensively in YPG, and 8th in PPG. That can't continue forever. Bostick must really be in the doghouse, because he has a skill set they could really use.

I think you can come close if the keep on a +7 turnover ration per five or six game rate.

Finley drew safety coverage at times, I will give him that. Not much else though. He was a different player since the injury. More of a threat than Quarless, but not the guy he was previously. Not sure he could have stayed in Green Bay, happy with a lesser contract, without learning that lesson the hard way.

By that I mean leaving for disappointing offers, not another injury.