Cobb

[HarveyWallbangers]

You won't convince me that Finley wouldn't do wonders for this offense. There were others that helped make up for it, but Finley was a difference maker. I would have loved to see Finley combined with Lacy. We never really got to see much of it.

[pbmax]

was told yesterday that te was open a lot yesterday but Rodgers chose not to go to him. Read somewhere that Q even told AR he was open all the time. I'd trade a two-snap, big play drive (that we always seem to be going for) for a ten play drive that eats the clock, and rests the d, once in a while. if they're giving us the short/med routes we should take them and sustain drives.

He gets linebacker coverage and can probably beat all but the best. But its a limited threat the D wants to cover the TE with a LB, except perhaps in the red zone.

[pbmax]

One thing to remember about Cobb, the safety that used to cover Finley is now free to double Cobb. The Dolphins put Grimes on Nelson but Cobb was doubled in the slot.

Nelson has received that treatment in two games. I wonder what made the Dolphins switch?

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/aaron-rodgers-receivers-come-through-in-end-b99370045z1-279092081.html#packers

[Pugger]

I think what's different is that the Packers don't have a TE in the lineup who can stretch the middle of the field. Cobb is drawing more attention than ever before. It's just a different offense than it's been. The Packers are 19th in the NFL in passing YPG, but they're getting by because Rodgers is ridiculously good in the red zone. Cobb is a big part of that.

On the TD to Cobb against the fins the talking heads on BSPN and the NFLN all pointed out how Cobb never gave up on the play scrambling around in the end zone knowing AR would also try to escape the pocket and keep the play alive. Not all WRs do this like Randall did on Sunday.

[Patler]

Sure Finley, or someone like him would help the offense, but they played most of 2013 without him too. If you are looking for reasons that the offense is different this year than last, Finley isn't the reason, because he wasn't there most of last year either.

They got Bulaga back, which should be an improvement. EDS had one of the worst years statistically for a Packer center in a long time, both in run blocking and pass pro, and his replacement is earning high praise. Yet, overall the OL play has been bad.

It all starts with the OL, not as individuals but as an overall unit performance. But, this is no surprise. They start poorly almost every year.

[pbmax]

Sure Finley, or someone like him would help the offense, but they played most of 2013 without him too. If you are looking for reasons that the offense is different this year than last, Finley isn't the reason, because he wasn't there most of last year either.

They got Bulaga back, which should be an improvement. EDS had one of the worst years statistically for a Packer center in a long time, both in run blocking and pass pro, and his replacement is earning high praise. Yet, overall the OL play has been bad.

It all starts with the OL, not as individuals but as an overall unit performance. But, this is no surprise. They start poorly almost every year.

I think its worse in one respect this year, unrelated to normal slow starts. Both Bach and Bulaga are getting beat with speed on the road. In the no huddle or silent count, their rookie center is always snapping on the same count after Rodgers lifts his foot. Rushers are beating the tackles off the snap.

They might not want to burden their new center with more duties, but he has to use some kind of variable cadence there or its going to be very hard to win by passing on the road against a good pass rush.

If one thing other than injury would mean Tretter gets his start back, its this.

[denverYooper]

I think its worse in one respect this year, unrelated to normal slow starts. Both Bach and Bulaga are getting beat with speed on the road. In the no huddle or silent count, their rookie center is always snapping on the same count after Rodgers lifts his foot. Rushers are beating the tackles off the snap.

They might not want to burden their new center with more duties, but he has to use some kind of variable cadence there or its going to be very hard to win by passing on the road against a good pass rush.

If one thing other than injury would mean Tretter gets his start back, its this.

Tretter hasn't started a game. Why would he be any better with the silent count on the road in a hostile environment? They're taking some lumps there with Linsley, but you've got to figure they get him mixing cadences soon.

[Carolina_Packer]

I wonder what the final call will be when Tretter is healthy enough to come back. Will Linsley or Tretter be a backup at Guard and Center and let Gerhardt go?

[sharpe1027]

Tretter hasn't started a game. Why would he be any better with the silent count on the road in a hostile environment? They're taking some lumps there with Linsley, but you've got to figure they get him mixing cadences soon.

Not sure if this is what pb was thinking but Trette had more time in the off season to get prepared. If I recall, they worked all summer to get him ready.

[Guiness]

I wonder what the final call will be when Tretter is healthy enough to come back. Will Linsley or Tretter be a backup at Guard and Center and let Gerhardt go?

Tretter was a tackle in college. Seeing as how poorly the most recent Sherrod experiment went, I think it's more likely he is cut and Tretter is a backup tackle, not guard.

[pbmax]

Not sure if this is what pb was thinking but Trette had more time in the off season to get prepared. If I recall, they worked all summer to get him ready.

This. Its just a guess. They may not even have introduced the idea yet. But they should work on it.

[Guiness]

This. Its just a guess. They may not even have introduced the idea yet. But they should work on it.

It was definitely a problem Sunday. The one snap in particular, that they showed a replay of had the RDE going so early Lych said it had to be offsides. No flag, and if he wasn't, he definitely had a better idea of when the ball was going to be snapped than Bakh had.

[Patler]

Not sure if this is what pb was thinking but Trette had more time in the off season to get prepared. If I recall, they worked all summer to get him ready.

I don't think that means much anymore. Under the new rules, only the strength & conditioning coaches are allowed to work with the players, except for the few days of off season camps. The players are permitted only minimal time with footballs. MM complained about the fact that centers, qbs, holders, punters and kickers whose basic functions require handling the football aren't allowed to use one during most of the off season.

Tretter never played center in a game until the first preseason game this year. I suspect that he will have to focus on the basics of being a center more than an experienced center like Linsley would have to.

By the time Tretter comes back, he will be the green-eyed rookie and Linsley will be the "vet".

[Harlan Huckleby]

They need Tretter to replace Sherrod

[Joemailman]

Tretter might be perfect to be the OL 6th man. He might be an improvement over Barclay.