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  • #16
    Originally posted by MadScientist View Post
    Boykin - garbage time only, lower than Dorsey
    Janis - healthy scratch, can't even beat out a guy from the PS or a guy coming back from injury who has done nothing this year.
    Although Boykin hasn't done much this year, it's not sure that he has been terrible. Cobb had slow start too, probably a whole team issue.

    I was pissed that Boykin started ahead of Janis. But now that I am a day older and a day wiser, somebody had to sit down because of uncertainty at linebacker, and you don't want to lose Boykin mentally, so it was his turn to play.

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    • #17
      Did Barrington flash anything in his first start?

      Winner:

      Dom Capers for not playing Brad Jones?
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby View Post
        Although Boykin hasn't done much this year, it's not sure that he has been terrible. Cobb had slow start too, probably a whole team issue.

        I was pissed that Boykin started ahead of Janis. But now that I am a day older and a day wiser, somebody had to sit down because of uncertainty at linebacker, and you don't want to lose Boykin mentally, so it was his turn to play.
        Boykin had a few drops early and fell out of Rodgers favor, especially with the emergence of Adams. He made my list, more or less because there were no starters who deserved to be called losers. Still he hasn't lived up to what we thought he would be this year, and this game exemplifies that. Janis makes too many mistakes to get PT and isn't the (new) core special team player that Dorsey is. Just hoping for more based on him making plays regularly in the preseason.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Guiness View Post
          Winners:

          I can't believe no one is mentioning Red's inspiring post to launch the game day thread, that's some major stud work right there.

          Jerry Jones - early nomination for NFL executive of the year with what he's done with that team this year! lol, wouldn't that burn all the other owners???

          Losers:

          Bakh? Rodgers was sacked twice, I think at least one of those, the sack by Davis, was on him. There seemed to be some pressure coming from the left side of the line.
          Guiness, I seem to recall one of those sacks was because of a poor sustained block by Richard Rodgers. If I'm recalling right, A-Rod stepped up in the pocket and RichRod lost control of Thomas Davis who chased Rodgers from behind as he approached the line of scrimmage. RichRod needs to learn how to block better. They don't seem ready to use him in the passing game, so if he can't block, what good is he at this point?
          "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." -Daniel Patrick Moynihan

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          • #20
            Boykin did not catch and pass and wasn't targeted Sunday. Boykin played 12 of 58 plays.

            Barrington had one tackle and one assist. I think I heard his name mentioned once or twice in 29 plays (out of 69).

            As for Janis, his small school career is a severe handicap, especially from Arod's point of view:

            Q. There’s a level of trust you have to earn before the plays do come your way. How do you get to that point?


            A. Janis:
            It’s putting in the time in meetings. Whether it’s with Aaron and them, if he asks the question you respond with the right answer, just so in the back of his head he knows I’m going to be in the right spot. I think that’s the biggest thing.
            ...
            ...

            Q. What do you need to continue to get better at?


            A. Janis: Just things like reading coverages, all those other things that the vets are pretty good at that I’m not used to doing just because I’m coming from Saginaw Valley. We really didn’t have to read coverages too much. Doing things like that, and I think attacking the ball in the air is something I really need to work on. There’s not much separation at this level like there was at Saginaw. I usually had 5 yards of separation. So I think that’s something I need to work on the most, just so that DB can’t make a play on the ball.


            Q. So at Saginaw it was just a matter of, “I’m faster than you, and that’s all that matters?”



            A. Janis: For the most part, it was pretty much, “Just run fast and get open.” We did have some plays where you’d have to read if the middle of the field was open or closed, but that’s pretty much it. We never really had checks or anything like that. It was just, play was called, and the quarterback would read the coverage and throw where he was supposed to throw. That’s something we had to get used to.
            From: http://www.packersnews.com/story/spo...peed/17528227/
            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Fritz View Post
              Did Barrington flash anything in his first start?

              Winner:

              Dom Capers for not playing Brad Jones?

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              • #22
                loser:
                Panther DB Charles Godfrey. He got the ax after the Packers game:
                http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...arles-godfrey/

                Not quite the same as getting coaches fired like the Packers did a couple of years ago, but still a sign of an impressive performance.
                2025 Ratpickers champion.

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                • #23
                  Sounds like Nick Perry might be finding his niche. Not exactly an every-down All Pro, but maybe an important role as a designated pass rusher, maybe a run stopper. I wonder if he can cover anyone.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Fritz View Post
                    Sounds like Nick Perry might be finding his niche. Not exactly an every-down All Pro, but maybe an important role as a designated pass rusher, maybe a run stopper. I wonder if he can cover anyone.
                    Probably not very well, but as you say, he's a niche player. There's room for a guy who can do 2 of the things you mentioned. As Meatloaf said, don't be sad, because 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
                    I can't run no more
                    With that lawless crowd
                    While the killers in high places
                    Say their prayers out loud
                    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                    A thundercloud
                    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
                      Probably not very well, but as you say, he's a niche player. There's room for a guy who can do 2 of the things you mentioned. As Meatloaf said, don't be sad, because 2 out of 3 ain't bad.
                      I'll set an edge (set edge oooooh)
                      I rush the QB (QB ooooooh)
                      But there ain't no way I'll ever cover Tight Ends
                      Ted don't be sad (don't be sad)
                      Originally posted by 3irty1
                      This is museum quality stupidity.

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                      • #26
                        Well, my guess is that he comes into camp next year claiming he wants to be a "complete" outside linebacker.

                        Though man, you never see anything in the papers from him. He must not like to talk to the press at all. Or the press doesn't want to talk to him. Or both.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #27
                          Tramon needs to learn how to jump. He gave up two big catches to their giant rookie who "outjumped" tramon for both plays. Tramon got all of about 3 inches off the ground on both plays. If he could have gotten 4 inches off the ground he could have broken up or even picked off both balls.

                          I can get 4 inches off the ground. And i'm white, older then tramon, have a nice beer gut and only have one good leg

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by red View Post
                            Tramon needs to learn how to jump. He gave up two big catches to their giant rookie who "outjumped" tramon for both plays. Tramon got all of about 3 inches off the ground on both plays. If he could have gotten 4 inches off the ground he could have broken up or even picked off both balls.

                            I can get 4 inches off the ground. And i'm white, older then tramon, have a nice beer gut and only have one good leg
                            Can you get 4 inches off the ground running full speed and facing sideways with your hands in the air and being bumped by a 230 lb WR?
                            One time Lombardi was disgusted with the team in practice and told them they were going to have to start with the basics. He held up a ball and said: "This is a football." McGee immediately called out, "Stop, coach, you're going too fast," and that gave everyone a laugh.
                            John Maxymuk, Packers By The Numbers

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by red View Post
                              Tramon needs to learn how to jump. He gave up two big catches to their giant rookie who "outjumped" tramon for both plays. Tramon got all of about 3 inches off the ground on both plays. If he could have gotten 4 inches off the ground he could have broken up or even picked off both balls.

                              I can get 4 inches off the ground. And i'm white, older then tramon, have a nice beer gut and only have one good leg
                              Might just be his ankle. I've seen him dunk a basketball.
                              70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Maxie the Taxi View Post
                                Can you get 4 inches off the ground running full speed and facing sideways with your hands in the air and being bumped by a 230 lb WR?
                                Also, Tramon was out all week getting his ankle well enough to even play. Probably had 25 pounds of tape on it. Kinda minimizes his spring.

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