McGinn: Hawk, Epitome of Mediocrity

[oldbutnotdeadyet]

Well, give me 1/100 of what Hawk makes and I'll suit up...

[pbmax]

Without B.J. Raji and Ryan Pickett to keep blockers off, Hawk's inability to get off blocks and attack ball carriers has become magnified. The Packers can't stop the run.

Word salad. The Packers were last in the League in risk defense WITH those guys. Their absence may have changed the problem Hawk faces, but the result is still bad run defense.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Does anyone want to design the perfect ILB for TT? Size? Speed? Smarts? Toughness? Quick?

I'd put the premium on speed and smarts. Hawk apparently is one out of two.

[Rutnstrut]

ILB isn't the only mediocre position. Clay is often injured, over rated, and over payed. That reeks of mediocrity, just with prettier hair.

[red]

ILB isn't the only mediocre position. Clay is often injured, over rated, and over payed. That reeks of mediocrity, just with prettier hair.

The difference is that clay flashes freak awesomeness

Hawk flashes solidness

[pbmax]

ILB isn't the only mediocre position. Clay is often injured, over rated, and over payed. That reeks of mediocrity, just with prettier hair.

In fact, if the entire defense was mediocre like Matthews, it would be the most mediocre #1 defense in the League.

[denverYooper]

In fact, if the entire defense was mediocre like Matthews, it would be the most mediocre #1 defense in the League.

LOL!

BTW... Clay looked like he had more of his speed back last week after looking unusually slow for a month.

[red]

So, everyone kept saying morgan burnett looked like shit because he had shit lined up next to him

Hawk also has a pile of shit lined up next to him

Would one decent ILB next to hawk actually make him look better?

If burnett only looked bad because "he has to cover for his partner", then isnt the same true for hawk and jones?

[pbmax]

So, everyone kept saying morgan burnett looked like shit because he had shit lined up next to him

Hawk also has a pile of shit lined up next to him

Would one decent ILB next to hawk actually make him look better?

If burnett only looked bad because "he has to cover for his partner", then isnt the same true for hawk and jones?

Yes, especially if it was a good match skills wise.

McGinn laughs at the notion of Hawk starting on a SB winning defense, but he was already on one obviously. Bishop probably wasn't the best skills match, but they made it work that year (2011 different story). It would also help if they were more sturdy up front. Woodson also helped.

But the baseline poor fit is that Hawk is being asked to play Buck ILB, which is usually taking on a Guard, and he doesn't shed well. He went from a weak side LB in a 4-3 to the plugger in a 3-4. He's not ideal there.

I don't believe the answers on floating around on the FA market often, but I have to think a Guard/run plugger at ILB to let Hawk run to the ball would be a relatively easy find. But they seem to be in no hurry to move him.

[Pugger]

LOL!

BTW... Clay looked like he had more of his speed back last week after looking unusually slow for a month.

I suspect his groin was bothering him for a couple of weeks.

[George Cumby]

Here's Hawks rookie stats:

Games played:16
Total tackles: 119
Solo: 82
Assists: 37
Sacks: 3.5
Passes defensed: 6
Interceptions: 2
So what happened? Maybe just a bad fit? Too big and too slow after bulking up after his rookie season?

[red]

Here's Hawks rookie stats:

Games played:16
Total tackles: 119
Solo: 82
Assists: 37
Sacks: 3.5
Passes defensed: 6
Interceptions: 2
So what happened? Maybe just a bad fit? Too big and too slow after bulking up after his rookie season?

Like pb just said, he was playing another position back then with a totally different role

He was in the playmaker role back then, now hes doing the dirty work

[King Friday]

Can we upgrade Hawk as a player? Sure. He's not a playmaker...he's pedestrian as an athlete on an NFL field. However, Hawk is highly respected in the locker room and is almost like having a coach on the field. He is constantly directing players where to go and has been getting them in the right spot more often than not this year. So, if you bring in a guy who is a better player...but who is unable to direct those around him to get the defense set up correctly...have you really improved anything?

To me, writing about upgrading Hawk is a bottom of the barrel article for a guy like McGinn. Fans have been saying this shit for YEARS. However, there are a few other positions on the team where an upgrade would have more of an impact. Look at the impact Ha Ha has made on this defense. Was McGinn touting that upgrade anywhere? To me, that was FAR more important than fixing the Hawk situation.

IMO, Bob McGinn's writing at this point is more mediocre than AJ Hawk.

[Fritz]

"Like a coach on the field" makes me think of Fat Mike out there, his cheeks bulging out of his helmet as a running back whizzes by.

[Tyrion Lannister]

I've actually seen plays where Hawk was going to be right where the RB is and instead of breaking down and attacking the RB he dove at the lineman's knees that was supposed to block him and took himself out of the play. Time and time again, I've seen Hawk take on a blocker like he was on offense. It's like he doesn't understand that he is supposed to shed the block and tackle the RB.

Saw plenty of that against the Saints.

Hawk sucks motherfucking balls and bigot dicks. He needs to take his lame ass back to Ohio and fuck up that fucking state like he's fucking up the Packers!!!!

I am fucking pissed!!!