Week 11 other games thread

[Guiness]

A slog-fest in Miami. Orton and Tannehill both looking pretty good throwing the ball, and ground games are clicking but neither team seems to be able to score anything but FGs, just dinking an dunking down the field.

Learned 2 new rules from this game. Remember that all scoring plays are reviewable? Nope, safeties, (worth 2 points, that *is* a score, right?) are not reviewable. Pettine even threw the flag to press the matter, and was informed it was not reviewable.

The other is that if an intentional grounding penalty is called when the ball is thrown from the endzone, a safety is assessed. I was expecting half the distance to the goal.

[smuggler]

A penalty that occurs in the end zone on the offense always results in a safety.

The scoring plays are all supposed to be reviewed, but the penalty element (intentional grounding) is a judgment call and can't be reviewed. So, if the 'Phins had 12 men on the field, the Bills could have challenged that and nothing that occurred in the play (outside of a personal foul) would have mattered.

[Guiness]

Miami with a running TD, ball came out as the runner was crossing the line - but the TD stands. Not sure why it stands on the ground, but if that was a WR coming down with the ball - no TD.

[Joemailman]

I'm not watching, but Tyler Dunne tweeted this:

Tyler Dunne @TyDunne · 2h 2 hours ago
Dink 'n Dunk Bowl.

[smuggler]

Why the fuck are the Bills punting 4th and 6, down by 10, in 'Phins territory?

[Guiness]

The Bills came out really flat in the second half.

[Patler]

Learned 2 new rules from this game........The other is that if an intentional grounding penalty is called when the ball is thrown from the endzone, a safety is assessed. I was expecting half the distance to the goal.

Didn't Rodgers have one of those a few years ago? Intentional grounding in the endzone. Was it against the Vikings, maybe?

[pbmax]

Miami with a running TD, ball came out as the runner was crossing the line - but the TD stands. Not sure why it stands on the ground, but if that was a WR coming down with the ball - no TD.

Runner, by the rules, already has possession. Even if there is a fumble the ball is live and can again be possessed. As soon as the ball hits the plane of the goal line, its a score. WR if they catch it in or near the end zone, has to maintain possession all the way to the ground if necessary. No assumption of possession for them. Ball comes loose? End of play.

I don't know what happens to a runner who bobbles the ball near the goal line (either by himself, getting hit or on exchange at one foot line). I assume they have to regain control for it to count.

[Guiness]

Runner, by the rules, already has possession. Even if there is a fumble the ball is live and can again be possessed. As soon as the ball hits the plane of the goal line, its a score. WR if they catch it in or near the end zone, has to maintain possession all the way to the ground if necessary. No assumption of possession for them. Ball comes loose? End of play.

I don't know what happens to a runner who bobbles the ball near the goal line (either by himself, getting hit or on exchange at one foot line). I assume they have to regain control for it to count.

I see your point - the runner already has possession. The question then becomes, when does he lose possession? The ball was coming out as he crossed the line, and popped all the way out when he hit the ground. Buffalo player picks it up and runs it out. On a pass play, that's simply and incompletion, but on a running play, the runner had possession, so if he loses it someone has to regain it.

It's probably a judgement call, and a tough one for the ref crew - had he lost control of the ball to the point that he no longer had possession when he was crossing the line?

[smuggler]

Basically, if he ever had possession at any moment while in the endzone (across the plane) then it's a TD. If not, the the refs suck.

[Guiness]

Have a look at this cheap shot, Titans TE taking out an assistant coach on the sidelines!

[MadScientist]

Vikings must really suck, they've only put up 10 points against the Bears late in the first half, and are actually down against them.

[pbmax]

I can't believe that guy was only fined $30,000.

[pbmax]

In a world that makes no sense, the Bengals are beating the Saints in NO by 17.

[pbmax]

Tampa is drilling Washington and the Giants are hanging with the 49ers though down by a TD.