Adrian Peterson Suspended Rest of Year

[George Cumby]

And we, by our consumption, encourage it. Indeed, revel in it. We love a crushing hit, we revel in a dominating defense, which is comprised of large men doing violent things to one another. Could any of us turn that switch off easily given the conditions?

Plato or Socrates said something about balance in regards to the physical culture, too little emphasis left a man "indecently soft", too much lent itself to savagery.

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This one might have gotten posted yesterday. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/18/sp...nytsports&_r=0

Incudes a story about Brandon Underwood and his wife (one report and recant of domestic assault and the famous WI Dells prostitutes). Packers seem to have had the good sense not to make it obvious where their loyalties lie. Marvin Lewis, in the other story, doesn't come off as good if you believe the wife involved.

Is it strange all these cases remind me of Henry VIII?

[pbmax]

And we, by our consumption, encourage it. Indeed, revel in it. We love a crushing hit, we revel in a dominating defense, which is comprised of large men doing violent things to one another. Could any of us turn that switch off easily given the conditions?

Plato or Socrates said something about balance in regards to the physical culture, too little emphasis left a man "indecently soft", too much lent itself to savagery.

You could say that about any commercial transaction. Same with family relationships and, as the story I just linked to reports, coworkers spouses.

As far as reveling in the violence, I think a lot of poor socialization could be remedied if you couldn't make sports your living (and sole occupation) starting at about age 14. Maybe younger.

[Rastak]

This is an awesome article:

http://www.gq.com/blogs/the-feed/2014/11/adrian-peterson-case-fiasco.html

"But Roger Goodell could give half a fuck about any sort of deal. Instead, after all the he's done to make the NFL look dumb, he again shat out his standard suspension communiqué from New York, complete with a public finger-wagging of the player involved, which reads exactly like a letter from a high school principal...
"The difference in size and strength between you and the child is significant."
Yes, thank you for that, Commish. How about you send your letter to Peterson and NO ONE ELSE, so that it doesn't read like you're sending him to the corner?"

[Tony Oday]

I just want AP not to beat his children. This was a planned out attack on a fucking 4 year old! Sterling had to sell his team because he told his black girlfriend he didnt want her to bring black men to the game and sit in his seats...AP HIT A 4 YEAR OLD WITH A DAMN STICK!!! There is no defending him. The bullshit that he was raised that way hold ZERO water, I was raised that it was ok to smoke around children, have your kid stand up in the front seat while driving, ect and I know you dont do that now. I would say I hope he goes broke but he has what 7 kids and 7 families to support?

That all said he will do his time and when he is done I hope he learned something. He is an all world football player and an all world ass licker.

[Rastak]

I just want AP not to beat his children. This was a planned out attack on a fucking 4 year old! Sterling had to sell his team because he told his black girlfriend he didnt want her to bring black men to the game and sit in his seats...AP HIT A 4 YEAR OLD WITH A DAMN STICK!!! There is no defending him. The bullshit that he was raised that way hold ZERO water, I was raised that it was ok to smoke around children, have your kid stand up in the front seat while driving, ect and I know you dont do that now. I would say I hope he goes broke but he has what 7 kids and 7 families to support?

That all said he will do his time and when he is done I hope he learned something. He is an all world football player and an all world ass licker.

Who defended him?

[Rastak]

Tony, Deadspin said it better than I could:

"1. When talking or writing about the NFL's handling of the Adrian Peterson case, it's difficult to separate discussion of the vicious cruelty of Peterson's actions from the fairness of the NFL's adjudicatory process. You can wholeheartedly believe Peterson belongs in jail, or in hell, and believe at the same time that the NFL's power is dangerously centralized and wielded capriciously for labor-crushing ends.

2. The NFL recognizes that difficulty, and counts on the inability of the public to divorce the two concepts. It's one thing when the hammer falls on a guy who smoked weed one too many times, but the league knows that no right-thinking person is going to go to bat for Peterson, who stuck leaves in his four-year-old's mouth and whipped his testicles with a stick. It's the boiling frog story, and you tend not to notice the extremity of the heat when it's scalding someone who morally deserves it. But once you've mentally excused the NFL's actions under circumstances as extreme as child abuse, you empower the NFL to use that muscle memory for the next set of circumstances, ones which may not be so extreme."

[Tyrion Lannister]

I just want AP not to beat his children. This was a planned out attack on a fucking 4 year old! Sterling had to sell his team because he told his black girlfriend he didnt want her to bring black men to the game and sit in his seats...AP HIT A 4 YEAR OLD WITH A DAMN STICK!!! There is no defending him. The bullshit that he was raised that way hold ZERO water, I was raised that it was ok to smoke around children, have your kid stand up in the front seat while driving, ect and I know you dont do that now. I would say I hope he goes broke but he has what 7 kids and 7 families to support?

That all said he will do his time and when he is done I hope he learned something. He is an all world football player and an all world ass licker.

I'm no hotshot lawyer, but I think there's a difference between "attacking" a child and "disciplining" a child.

AP did not flat out attack his kid for no apparent reason. The 4 year old, I believe, was mistreating his other kid. AP decided to "discipline" the misbehaving kid using a method he thought was right.

Corporal punishment is a subjective matter. Not saying hitting your kid with a switch is ok, but there are worse forms of corporal punishments out there in this shitty world.

I dunno, maybe if I weren't such a loser and had planted my seed in a hot chick, I would be more disgusted with this whole AP ordeal. Just glad AP won't be punishing my beloved Pack on Sunday.

[George Cumby]

I'm no hotshot lawyer, but I think there's a difference between "attacking" a child and "disciplining" a child.

AP did not flat out attack his kid for no apparent reason. The 4 year, I believe, was mistreating his other kid. AP decided to "discipline" the misbehaving kid using a method he thought was right.

Corporal punishment is a subjective matter. Not saying hitting your kid with a switch is ok, but there are worse forms of corporal punishments out there in this shitty world.

I dunno, maybe if I weren't such a loser and had planted my seed in a hot chick, I would be more disgusted with this whole AP ordeal. Just glad AP won't be punishing my beloved Pack on Sunday.

This was deconstructed at great length earlier in the original AP thread; the eventual consensus being that a 200+ pound man beating hell out of a four year old was egregious and out of line. Obviously, we are all entitled to disagree even you, you incorrigible Troll.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Tony, Deadspin said it better than I could:

1. You can wholeheartedly believe Peterson belongs in jail, or in hell

C'mon now, AP "disciplined" his kid with a switch. He was punishing his kid in attempt to teach him the meaning of right and wrong; not purposefully hurting the kid. And he deserves to go to hell, if there is one?

Wanna know why I'd rather be ignorant than read the news? Too depressing. Every time I pick up a paper, there are stories about parents molesting their kids, gassing them to death and leaving them in their cars on a hot day. Now those type of parents deserve to be in hell (if there is one).

This whole AP ordeal is blown out of proportion, IMHO.

[pbmax]

C'mon now, AP "disciplined" his kid with a switch. He was punishing his kid in attempt to teach him the meaning of right and wrong; not purposefully hurting the kid. And he deserves to go to hell, if there is one?

Wanna know why I'd rather be ignorant than read the news? Too depressing. Every time I pick up a paper, there are stories about parents molesting their kids, gassing them to death and leaving them in their cars on a hot day. Now those type of parents deserve to be in hell (if there is one).

This whole AP ordeal is blown out of proportion, IMHO.

Well, that's where this gets very dicey. Can you tell me the factual difference between "discipline" in this case and "purposeful hurting"?

Its mainly intent, is it not?

Dad doesn't use a paddle because it feels good. Peterson himself stated and texted to the Mother that the injuries were par for the course and would help the child remember.

[Patler]

There are degrees to everything. I talked about this with a friend of mine from the South. He said his father also used a switch during discipline, but only when he and his siblings were wearing pants, and only a couple swats with the switch (which they also had to select themselves). He said the switch stung like heck, but didn't recall it ever leaving a mark.

Looking at the photos of the welts on his child, it sure appears that AP's discipline was over the top in both intensity and duration, especially when you consider the age of the child.

[Tyrion Lannister]

Well, that's where this gets very dicey. Can you tell me the factual difference between "discipline" in this case and "purposeful hurting"?

Its mainly intent, is it not?

Dad doesn't use a paddle because it feels good. Peterson himself stated and texted to the Mother that the injuries were par for the course and would help the child remember.

Like I wrote in another post, I'm not a hotshot lawyer. I'm not even a lawyer of any kind. But I have learned a lot about the law from watching My Cousin Vinny and Law and Order: SVU. Well, not really. Lemme give it a try, anyway.

Discipline is a complex term in the eyes of the law, as is "corporal punishment."

For example, Chucky is a demon-child (he's actually a doll). When you hurt it, you do so purposefully. Your intent is to injure it, or better, terminate it.

I don't think AP intended to inflict injuries to his kid. An undisciplined person is one that is prone to making the same mistake(s) over and over again. AP disciplined the kid with a switch in hope that the discomfort would make him see the error of his ways. That is a form of corporal punishment. That's not so bad when you compare it to the shits in other part of the world. Wiki "Corporal punishment" for more info.

[Zool]

Like I wrote in another post, I'm not a hotshot lawyer. I'm not even a lawyer of any kind. But I have learned a lot about the law from watching My Cousin Vinny and Law and Order: SVU. Well, not really. Lemme give it a try, anyway.

Discipline is a complex term in the eyes of the law, as is "corporal punishment."

For example, Chucky is a demon-child (he's actually a doll). When you hurt it, you do so purposefully. Your intent is to injure it, or better, terminate it.

I don't think AP intended to inflict injuries to his kid. An undisciplined person is one that is prone to making the same mistake(s) over and over again. AP disciplined the kid with a switch in hope that the discomfort would make him see the error of his ways. That is a form of corporal punishment. That's not so bad when you compare it to the shits in other part of the world. Wiki "Corporal punishment" for more info.

Pretend he did it to you. Do you care what the reasoning behind it is? Is he a beautiful misunderstood flower or someone who committed assault on a 4 year old?

[smuggler]

It's not assualt. Peterson assaulting a 4 year old does not end with the kid walking afterward. It's abuse.