Official Packers vs. Patriots Discussion Thread

[denverYooper]

They took another lead late against Denver in Denver. I think they qualify as good. At least they are now.

They've got all of the elements that usually give the packers problems -- fierce edge rush, physical corners, and a solid rushing offense led by a good-not-great QB. They're not as talented as the 9ers of the previous 3 years, but they're a tough out.

[wist43]

I expect us to win most games... we have the QB, a very good receiving corp, a decent RB, a good (for the most part) offensive play caller in MM; add to that, we have decent talent on the defensive side of the ball.

For us, it always comes down to 2 factors, 1) dunderdummy, and 2) the OL and whether they can hold up.

Against good QB's, dunderdummy has admitted that he is afraid of them and he coaches that way, i.e. he plays soft and tries to limit them to 15 yd gains, as opposed to giving up 80 yd TD's. Accompanying that flawed approach, or rather to accomodate that flawed approach, he abandons any notion of playing the run - so we get gashed in the running game too.

I expect this game will look very much like the New Orleans game. Brees threw for 311 yds and 3 TDs, and they ran for 194 yds.

No sacks, no INTs.

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That's how Dom Capers approaches dealing with elite QB's.

Is this news to you guys?? Haven't you seen enough embarrassing performances by this idiot to expect that he's likely to do the exact same thing again, and again, and again??

As for the OL - we were able to run for a couple of first downs at the end of the Viking game, but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday. We have only 3 running plays, and the overall philosophy is very, very passive. Bacteria is a liability, and other than Linsley, who is proving to be a pretty good player, none of them can run block to save their lives.

It's the nature of our team - and has been for years.

[wist43]

That's his modus operandi.

You guys need to take the rose colored glasses off and look at the MO of dunderdummy... you guys are such homers, lol

If we had a competent DC, I'd be saying we should win the SB; but, as it is dunderdummy is such a liability that we'll likely get embarrassed in the playoffs again.

[Cheesehead Craig]

As for the OL - we were able to run for a couple of first downs at the end of the Viking game, but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday.

There was no whipping of our OL by the Vikes yesterday. The pass protection was quite good and you can dismiss the run blocking all you want, but Lacy averaged 5 ypc.

[ThunderDan]

As for the OL - we were able to run for a couple of first downs at the end of the Viking game, but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday. We have only 3 running plays, and the overall philosophy is very, very passive. Bacteria is a liability, and other than Linsley, who is proving to be a pretty good player, none of them can run block to save their lives.

It's the nature of our team - and has been for years.

Lacy - 25 for 125 rushing, 1 TD long of 16

You don't even know when to lay off when you should. The Packer run game was excellent yesterday.

We had more first downs by rushing than we did passing yesterday.

[Bossman641]

Lacy - 25 for 125 rushing, 1 TD long of 16

You don't even know when to lay off when you should. The Packer run game was excellent yesterday.

We had more first downs by rushing than we did passing yesterday.

Not to mention Rodgers was sacked once and hit only 1 other time.
I think Bak is struggling a little bit but it's tough to complain about the OL when they've only given up 2 sacks total the past 2 weeks.
Philly has 2nd most sacks on year, Minn is T4

[MadScientist]

Looking at the Det-NE game a little closer, a few things popped out:

1) Detroit actually did a decent job moving the ball in the first half, when the game was still in doubt. Their drives stalled.
2) NE was even more pass heavy than the final statistics indicate, 10 of their 20 runs were in the 4th quarter.
3) Detroit did not get any sacks. I can't find information on hurries or QB hits to tell what sort of pressure Brady was under.

[mraynrand]

They took another lead late against Denver in Denver. I think they qualify as good. At least they are now.

ya, but how good is Denver getting thrashed by a losing Rams team?

[mraynrand]

but make no mistake, the Vikings whipped our OL thoroughly yesterday.....

If we had a competent DC, I'd be saying we should win the SB; but, as it is dunderdummy is such a liability that we'll likely get embarrassed in the playoffs again.

I hate it when the DC ruins the offensive line, too. You'd think Capers could confine his disasters to his side of the team!

[pbmax]

ya, but how good is Denver getting thrashed by a losing Rams team?

Have only seen one Rams game. Rapapport thinks they are playoff caliber if they had gone back to a healthy Shaun Hill earlier. Can't say for certain. What is certain is that the Broncos can be had far more easily than early season suggested.

[mraynrand]

^^^ I was joking. Denver was beat all to hell in that Rams game. And for the record, I love that Shaun Hill guy. That guy is a QB rock. He gets everything out of the skills he was given. Kinda like Hoyer, but with fewer bad throws.

[mraynrand]

One sure sign the Packers are beating NE: If the announcers say "Rodgers has completions to 9 different receivers today!"

[pbmax]

I hate it when the DC ruins the offensive line, too. You'd think Capers could confine his disasters to his side of the team!

Its rare you get 125 rush yards at 5 ypc and allow 1 sack and win. Has to be the first time in history. wist has a nose for statistical news.

[3irty1]

I hate it when the DC ruins the offensive line, too. You'd think Capers could confine his disasters to his side of the team!

Its all that lulling them into a false sense of security while facing his soft DL in practice.

Little known Capers facts:
1) Capers favorite food is Puppy meat.
2) In the offseason Capers hobby is to buy candy factories just to shut them down
3) Its theorized that Capers's hair-spray-paint poisoned all the dolphins in Lake Michigan
4) Capers has a large tattoo on his chest of a pentagram with a homosexual sex position depicted at each vertex
5) During the predraft evaluations of front 7 players, anyone who beats Capers at arm wrestling is removed from the draft board.

[Freak Out]

Its all that lulling them into a false sense of security while facing his soft DL in practice.

Little known Capers facts:
1) Capers favorite food is Puppy meat.
2) In the offseason Capers hobby is to buy candy factories just to shut them down
3) Its theorized that Capers's hair-spray-paint poisoned all the dolphins in Lake Michigan
4) Capers has a large tattoo on his chest of a pentagram with a homosexual sex position depicted at each vertex
5) During the predraft evaluations of front 7 players, anyone who beats Capers at arm wrestling is removed from the draft board.

Ha ha!