Winners - Losers Packers vs. Pats

[pbmax]

Winner:
Adams
Loser:
Adams

He is versatile though. Someone must have said something to him about the team missing James Jones.

Should have been over the shoulder then. With a slant, it would be a Jones bobble.

[hoosier]

I'd like to add this:

I was impressed with the calm manner in which HC Mike McCarthy handled himself in this game. The way he allowed his horses to simply run.

He acted like the confident HC that he needs to be. Accepting the good and bad with an 'it is what it is' demeanor.

You say this because you think McCarthy's usual game time demeanor is Harbaugh-like spasticity?

[Fritz]

Can't put me on the list of losers, b/c dunderummy largely did what I said he needed to do - the shock of it is, that he actually did it!!!

From what little I saw, he went mostly with 3 man lines, and when he did throw the 2-4 out there he crowded the line and filled gaps. Didn't see much of Hawk or Jones - but then again I haven't watched the whole game yet.

For the personnel we have, I've been calling for this defense for a few years now... the fact that dunderdummy is finally - finally - after years of embarrassment and dismal failures finally seeming to get it figured out isn't a feather in his cap. The idiot has subjected us to horrible football for 3+ years!!!

Classic Wist. You abuse Dom Capers left, right, and center, but when his defense keeps the Pats to 21 points it's no credit to Capers - it's because he finally followed your advice! No, even when the Packer defense plays well, it's no credit to Capers.

And...part of your complaining was that "Dunderdummy" would refuse to double or bracket Gronk, and that would mean, and I am paraphrasing you, that Gronk would score at least three touchdowns (you mentioned that if the over-under on number of Gronk touchdowns was 2.5, you'd take the over).

As far as I could tell, Capers refused to double or bracket Gronk, yet somehow, miraculously, the Patriots only scored 21, and I don't think Gronk scored those three touchdowns you were so sure he'd get.

But don't forget to trot out your old schtick about how, really, the other team screwed it up. In this case, I imagine you'll say that if Belichek had run the ball lots more, the Patriots would've surely won.

[mraynrand]

^^^^ To summarize: Heads, I win; tails you lose!

[pbmax]

As far as I could tell, Capers refused to double or bracket Gronk, yet somehow, miraculously, the Patriots only scored 21, and I don't think Gronk scored those three touchdowns you were so sure he'd get..

They did not. Some occasional zone, but mostly man on man with the safeties Hyde, Dix and Burnett.

[wist43]

Classic Wist. You abuse Dom Capers left, right, and center, but when his defense keeps the Pats to 21 points it's no credit to Capers - it's because he finally followed your advice! No, even when the Packer defense plays well, it's no credit to Capers.

And...part of your complaining was that "Dunderdummy" would refuse to double or bracket Gronk, and that would mean, and I am paraphrasing you, that Gronk would score at least three touchdowns (you mentioned that if the over-under on number of Gronk touchdowns was 2.5, you'd take the over).

As far as I could tell, Capers refused to double or bracket Gronk, yet somehow, miraculously, the Patriots only scored 21, and I don't think Gronk scored those three touchdowns you were so sure he'd get.

But don't forget to trot out your old schtick about how, really, the other team screwed it up. In this case, I imagine you'll say that if Belichek had run the ball lots more, the Patriots would've surely won.

I haven't watched the game... the only play that stands out in my mind was the play in the end zone that was single coverage, good coverage, and Gronk dropped a pass that he could have held on to, but again, the coverage was very good.

As for dunderdummy - is he not playing the fronts the way I've said he needed to play it?? Yes he is... and the results have been very promising. As I've said, I like the players, and I've liked a lot of them for a few years now - my bitch has been that they haven't been used right.

Now that they are being used correctly, and we are getting much better results - the fact is - my arguments have been shown to be correct.

I will give dunderdummy credit for a game, or for 2 1/2 games in the last 4 - for finally getting his head out of his ass - but in no way can he be trusted. He is as likely to come out next week and play a 1-5 as he is to continue to take full advantage of the personnel he has available to him. I said the moment we hired him that he has it in him to be a good DC, but that he can't be trusted - that has proven to be true.

The guy has a long, long history in the league - and he's been fired from every place he's ever been b/c he has an MO of diminishing results; he also has an MO of being very, very capable... can't begin to imagine what goes thru his head when he throws those shitty game plans together, but he certainly does it on a regular enough basis to get fired everywhere he's been - everywhere but here.

He really should have been fired a long time ago - and I surely am not the only who has called for his head. I may be a leader on the bandwagon, but the bandwagon surely isn't a lonely one.

[wist43]

Was Brad Jones a healthy scratch??

I didn't notice Hawk... was he benched??

Heard Lattimore got hurt - did he start??

[Zool]

Was Brad Jones a healthy scratch??

I didn't notice Hawk... was he benched??

Heard Lattimore got hurt - did he start??

Hawk played sparingly
Lattimore was hurt on ST I believe
Didn't realize Jones was inactive. Will wonders never cease!

Barrington played OK. Some good plays against the run and some not so good. Mainly replacing Hawk in the nickle I believe? Someone can correct me on that.

[Bossman641]

Brad Jones had a single snap on defense
Lattimore injured on ST
Hawk played in the base 3-4, and I think he got a handful of snaps in the nickel when Barrington needed a break
CM3 played every snap

[Maxie the Taxi]

Brad Jones was active.

[mraynrand]

Brad Jones was active.

Even when he's active, he's inactive.

[mraynrand]

... is he not playing the fronts the way I've said he needed to play it?? Yes he is...

he plays them dependent on the team he's facing, just like last year. This year, he has overall better/less injured players.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Even when he's active, he's inactive.

A few games ago when he was wearing the headset, he was radioactive.

[woodbuck27]

You say this because you think McCarthy's usual game time demeanor is Harbaugh-like spasticity?

No HC gets under my skin like Jim Harbaugh.

Here`s some impressive stuff `for` Mike McCarthy.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-game-recap/article-1/Win-over-Pats-puts-Packers-in-control-of-first-round-bye/15a3e67c-4c3c-4ac9-9f8f-9ed723a01764?campaign=email_141201

[smuggler]

Pete Carroll also for his general obliviousness.