Official Buccaneers Discussion Thread

[woodbuck27]

We don't have to face this guy:

http://www.nfl.com/player/geraldmccoy/496816/profile

[ThunderDan]

Yea...Yes... Certainly ... right on. It's time to piss or get off the pot.

There is no way a Super Bowl caliber NFL team should have played the way the Green Bay Packers did in Buffalo.

That was clearly ' just awful '. How in HELL could that have happened? Is anyone really surprized?

The cumulative score in Packer road games:

Opposition 182 - Green Bay Packers 148.

Think about that fact.


Do you imagine that the Green Bay Packers have any chance 'really' if they don't win the NO. 2 Seed and gain some momentum with a 'W' in their next game.

Packerrats...The Playoffs begin this Sunday in Tampa Bay.


GO PACK GO !

Home teams are 128-96-1 this year. So no surprise for good teams to go 5-3 or 4-4 on the road this year.

Dallas is 7-0 on the road.
Cin and Pitt both have 5 road wins.
Everyone else in the NFL has won 4 games or less on the road.

The mighty Seahags are 4-3 same as the Pats and Broncos.

[pbmax]

AFC North records should not count, they play all the teams in the NFC South this year.

[pbmax]

These guys really are still kids, Lacy apparently wore his contacts past the 30 recommended days.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/19/eddie-lacy-cant-see-himself-wearing-goggles/

[Carolina_Packer]

Every team in the NFL has gone on the road and laid an egg this year. New England got smoked by KC who lost to the Titans. Denver got housed by St. Louis who got smoked by the Vikings. The Packers have laid four eggs. Unfortunately, they seem to suck when they lose, as opposed to losing close games. Two times (Detroit and Buffalo) the defense played well enough to support the team. Two other times (Seattle and New Orleans) the defense was not even close to good enough. 3 of the 4 losses (Seattle, Detroit, and Buffalo) were to very strong defenses, with New Orleans being the exception. All four losses are on the road, which doesn't bode well. Only one time this year (Miami) did the Packers go on the road and beat a quality defense, and that was by the skin of their teeth. I'm most concerned about how the team travels, especially against formidable defenses who will be especially amped up come playoff time. That's not the Packer defense's fault, that's the offense being out of sync. Should the Packers make a deep playoff run, they will likely have Seattle on the road. That would be tough.

[vince]

The way the Packers run their offense now with about the only thing determined by the coach being personnel and pre-snap alignment, and about the only other thing predetermined in that little semi get-together before they line up you can't really call a huddle being snap count, it puts a premium on pre-snap communication which is obviously a lot more challenging on the road against good defenses in hostile environments. With different people of varying levels of experience at different positions moving in and out of the lineup, it doesn't take a whole lot for someone on the offense to not be in sync with the rest of the group. Pre-snap communication can change post-snap reads so even if they do communicate all the way around someone might not react to what the defense does the same as others expect them to. Other times (Buffalo) players get disrupted post-snap which throws off timing.

On the road and particularly against good teams all those dynamics haven't come together as efficiently as they can yet.

It's not McCarthy's style, and I think he's right in his aggressive approach for the continuing development of the offense, but they may have had more success in a few of those road games by dialing back by a couple years some of what they ask Rodgers to do at the line of scrimmage - not for his sake but for the good of guys like Adams and Linsley. Maybe adjust protections but not make as many actual play adjustments on the fly. Adams in particular hasn't seemed to have gotten on the same page with Rodgers on some of those back shoulder/fly routes outside and has missed some hot read route adjustments as well. This could also have created a little more structure for the offense against Buffalo in terms of run-pass ratio as the game develops. I'm convinced a lot of the pass heavy approach was Rodgers making the calls at the line based on what the defense is showing him. Taking that away a bit and forcing a few runs in spite of what the defense showed might have helped.

They're not rookies anymore though so I'd say it's balls to the walls as far as stretching how they want to approach making adjustments at the line of scrimmage.

Making mistakes sucks but if they're learning and getting better it's worthwhile. Without checking, I'd say McCarthy's teams have tended to get better as the season goes on so the teaching and learning they're doing seems to be having an impact over time. Hopefully the Buffalo game will provide some valuable lessons that they'll build from. It better or they're doomed because that game will be studied hard by every opponent from now til they're done.

[Cleft Crusty]

These guys really are still kids, Lacy apparently wore his contacts past the 30 recommended days.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aring-goggles/

You never outgrow lazy. Clefty remembers a time when he left his Depends on too long. Then had to ride the Harley to get home. That wasn't pretty.

[Maxie the Taxi]

The way the Packers run their offense now with about the only thing determined by the coach being personnel and pre-snap alignment, and about the only other thing predetermined in that little semi get-together before they line up you can't really call a huddle being snap count, it puts a premium on pre-snap communication which is obviously a lot more challenging on the road against good defenses in hostile environments. With different people of varying levels of experience at different positions moving in and out of the lineup, it doesn't take a whole lot for someone on the offense to not be in sync with the rest of the group. Pre-snap communication can change post-snap reads so even if they do communicate all the way around someone might not react to what the defense does the same as others expect them to. Other times (Buffalo) players get disrupted post-snap which throws off timing.

On the road and particularly against good teams all those dynamics haven't come together as efficiently as they can yet.

It's not McCarthy's style, and I think he's right in his aggressive approach for the continuing development of the offense, but they may have had more success in a few of those road games by dialing back by a couple years some of what they ask Rodgers to do at the line of scrimmage - not for his sake but for the good of guys like Adams and Linsley. Maybe adjust protections but not make as many actual play adjustments on the fly. Adams in particular hasn't seemed to have gotten on the same page with Rodgers on some of those back shoulder/fly routes outside and has missed some hot read route adjustments as well. This could also have created a little more structure for the offense against Buffalo in terms of run-pass ratio as the game develops. I'm convinced a lot of the pass heavy approach was Rodgers making the calls at the line based on what the defense is showing him. Taking that away a bit and forcing a few runs in spite of what the defense showed might have helped.

They're not rookies anymore though so I'd say it's balls to the walls as far as stretching how they want to approach making adjustments at the line of scrimmage.

Making mistakes sucks but if they're learning and getting better it's worthwhile. Without checking, I'd say McCarthy's teams have tended to get better as the season goes on so the teaching and learning they're doing seems to be having an impact over time. Hopefully the Buffalo game will provide some valuable lessons that they'll build from. It better or they're doomed because that game will be studied hard by every opponent from now til they're done.

I agree. After the losses in Seattle and New Orleans some of us were suggesting they forget the no huddle, at least at the start, to make sure every player is on the same page. Couldn't they work into the no huddle as the crowd and situation warrants?

[Pugger]

I don't see anything phony in what McCarthy is doing. I see it as a genuine statement as the head coach that this is a big fucking game if they want to get to where they need to be as a team. The last thing this team needs is to go stumbling into the final game of the year against a pretty tough Detroit underperforming two games in a row. It's not an elimination game per se, but the time is now to start working up to that intense focus and heighten the level of play.

I think he's creatively saying through action that is more powerful than just saying it, "It's real boys, and that shitstorm you laid in Buffalo ain't gonna get it done starting now." Not sure how they wouldn't be buying into that.

+1000

[Pugger]

AFC North records should not count, they play all the teams in the NFC South this year.

So did we.

[pbmax]

So did we.

But the comparable for us is having to play the AFC East (New England, Buffalo, Jets, Miami) rather than the NFC South (New Orleans, Carolina, Atlanta, Tampa).

[Rutnstrut]

These guys really are still kids, Lacy apparently wore his contacts past the 30 recommended days.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...aring-goggles/

How the heck does this crap happen? It's not like he can't afford enough contacts, just buy more. Or wear the freakin goggles, it's a good thing he can play football. because he sure as hell doesn't sound to bright.

[denverYooper]

How the heck does this crap happen? It's not like he can't afford enough contacts, just buy more. Or wear the freakin goggles, it's a good thing he can play football. because he sure as hell doesn't sound to bright.

To write!

[King Friday]

LMAO

Bottom line. If we don't kick the Bucs in the crotch and win by at least 20, we don't have a prayer of doing squat in the postseason. The Bucs have no offense...no defense...nothing. The ONLY thing they have is Lovie, who knows McCarthy and the Packers well. However, he doesn't have a roster anywhere near what he had in Chicago. The Packers should come out smoking mad after their performance last week. I expect Rodgers to complete his first 15 passes with ease. I expect Eddie Lacy, even completely blind, and the running game in general to be used more extensively than last week...because McCarthy KNOWS the offense screwed the pooch last week.

This isn't a trap game. This is a pride game. Coming off a crap performance, a true contender will rise and dominate. I remember the 1996 Packers...after starting 8-1, they lost at KC and at Dallas (because we could never get those f-ers in Lambeau back then) and everyone starting questioning if they were ready to take that title step. Then they came out and laid a complete dud of a first half against the Rams...who were horrible. When faced with the reality that they were shooting themselves in the foot and needed to step it up, that team did. It did not lose a game the rest of that season. No other team came within 11 points of them, and the offense scored 28 or more in every game.

Wake up, Packers.

It is time.

[mraynrand]

To write!

I assumed it was self-parody.