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  • #61
    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
    I wonder if Flynn is back in 2015. Yes, he's the #2 this year but they must see some potential in Tolzien to keep him on the 53 this year. Of course both could be gone in 2015...
    I wouldn't bet against that last line - I don't see any reason for either to be back. Flynn had some magic at one time, but he looks truly bad when he's in a game now. Unless he brings something to the table that helps Rodgers, the way Pederson reportedly did at one time there is not reason to keep a dead end player like that. I do remember reading something that said he did a fabulous job of imitating other QBs when he ran the scout team.

    Tolzien? Impossible to tell what the story is there. He's not a game-day active. There is sure no indication he is developing into anything, and he's no spring chicken at 27. If he'd been active during those blow-outs, there might've been a chance to see what he could do.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Joemailman View Post
      I have a feeling Raji may not be back. Guion has played pretty well and is younger than Raji. I imagine they intend to bring Pennel back, and I'm not sure they really have a use for 3 NT types.
      Each of them can also play 3 tech. I could see it, but it someone would need to drop out. Luther Robinson might be out of luck. Pennel could be on roster but could they hide him on PS?

      Going to come down to cost.
      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Bretsky View Post
        I think Raji takes another pay cut if he's back, doesn't he ?
        We gave him 5MIL for a season long injury. I don't think we give him that much again until he performs
        I'm pretty sure we have him $4M. I'd be surprised if it took more than $2M to resign him this time.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #64
          with the cap going up there's no reason to make any sacrifices or rash decisions.
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          • #65
            Originally posted by gbgary View Post
            with the cap going up there's no reason to make any sacrifices or rash decisions.
            .
            Until the Dallas or Washington sign someone. As McGinn pointed out, there are two tackles with recent signings both making over $6 mil per year which might price Bulaga out of Green Bay.

            Unfortunately for the Packers, Bulaga looks like the best of the weak group of unrestricted tackles. Moreover, right tackles Gosder Cherilus of Indianapolis and Phil Loadholt of Minnesota signed deals in March 2013 averaging $7 million and $6.25 million, respectively, and their level of play isn't close to Bulaga's.
            Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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            • #66
              dal has to worry about signing dez and their running back. they barely had enough cap room to sign their draft picks.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                Flynn had some magic at one time, but he looks truly bad when he's in a game now.
                The only time he's been in a game this year has been in mop up duty when the team is up 52-10. Hand off on 1st down and 2nd down...and he's only passing on clear passing downs in 3rd and long, which plays into the advantage of the defense. Impossible to actually make a judgment under those conditions. Bottom line...he was good before he left, and he was capable enough last year to keep us in it when Rodgers went down. Your #2 QB isn't going to be great. Half the teams in the NFL don't have a decent #1 QB.
                It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by Guiness View Post
                  I wouldn't bet against that last line - I don't see any reason for either to be back. Flynn had some magic at one time, but he looks truly bad when he's in a game now. Unless he brings something to the table that helps Rodgers, the way Pederson reportedly did at one time there is not reason to keep a dead end player like that. I do remember reading something that said he did a fabulous job of imitating other QBs when he ran the scout team.

                  Tolzien? Impossible to tell what the story is there. He's not a game-day active. There is sure no indication he is developing into anything, and he's no spring chicken at 27. If he'd been active during those blow-outs, there might've been a chance to see what he could do.
                  I suppose most teams usually only dress 2 QBs and the coaches must feel Flynn has a better grasp of the playbook. I just wonder why we are keeping him on the 53 like this if we aren't gonna use him at all.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Pugger View Post
                    I suppose most teams usually only dress 2 QBs and the coaches must feel Flynn has a better grasp of the playbook. I just wonder why we are keeping him on the 53 like this if we aren't gonna use him at all.
                    You do recall the absolute mess of a situation the Packers left themselves in to start last season, do you not?
                    It's such a GOOD feeling...13 TIME WORLD CHAMPIONS!!

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                    • #70
                      Packers need to sign Cobb, or I have to change my license plate.
                      "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                        Packers need to sign Cobb, or I have to change my license plate.
                        Your idea or refrigerator guy's?
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                          Your idea or refrigerator guy's?
                          delivery guy went to high school with Dujuan Harris.



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                          "Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck

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                          • #73
                            Well, if you can, I say you keep Cobb, Bulaga, Raji, Guion, and Williams as your highest priorities, knowing though you don't want to sign someone like Williams to a four year deal, or Raji to any kind of long-term deal. Bulaga maybe you try for a one-year to see if he can stay healthy.

                            But as others have said, it'd be dumb to try to match a dumb offer by a dumb owner. So if someone offers Williams a 7 mill-a-year, five year deal, fuggedaboutit. Or is Dan Snyder elects to offer Bryan Bulaga a long-term deal with left-tackle money, skip it. But if you can, keep those dudes above. And try to keep Barclay, Richardson, and even Bush, too, for another two years.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                              You do recall the absolute mess of a situation the Packers left themselves in to start last season, do you not?
                              Yes, I do. I guess I feel sorry for a guy who isn't playing and riding the pines. If I were him I'd look for work elsewhere in 2015.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by King Friday View Post
                                You do recall the absolute mess of a situation the Packers left themselves in to start last season, do you not?
                                Yes, and not sure how, as it stands now, Tolzien could be of help in that same situation.

                                On that note, I was surprised to hear the '3rd QB rule' was eliminated in favour of an extra game day active. I think that's a mistake, no team is going to dress a 3rd QB instead of a specialist or depth at another position, so the 3rd string/developmental guys never get a chance to see the field because teams are always going to opt to dress a vet backup instead. And because of that, the only reason to have the 3rd QB on the roster instead of the PS is if you're worried someone else might pick him up.

                                If the league really felt the extra body was needed on game day, they could've allowed it, but still also kept the 3rd QB rule.
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