MVP debate: Who's most deserving? A.Rodgers - JJ Watt - T.Brady - P.Manning - D.Murray?

[RashanGary]

The 2nd or third best QB is more valuable than any other player IMO. It's been that way for many, many years. I'd always give it to a Qb until something drastic changes in the NFL.

[woodbuck27]

But can Rodgers win with it being a close vote or when he wasn't the frontrunner?

I believe at some point if not for the balance of the season that Aaron Rodgers was a (if not the) front runner.

Recall what the talk was and NFL MVP before Tom Brady and the New England Patriots arrived in Green Bay?

Wasn't that at least partially billed as the battle between leading candidates?

[mraynrand]

If anything, outstanding players on inferior teams have proven themselves more valuable than great players who benefit from talent around them.

This reminds me of all those years George Cumby played in the shadows of a terrible team, with no one knowing how great he really was. sniff, sniff, sob....

[mraynrand]

I think the MVP should be the League's chief statistician. Without him, no one would know how good anyone really is.

According to sources, a tree may have just fallen in the woods, but there were no statisticians there to observe it. #neverhappened

[pbmax]

Well now this all sounds like the Heismann vote, and we will next be determining which regions will vote which way (Southwest for Romo/Watt, Midwest for Rodgers, East for Brady, West for Merlin Olson). Which means this is all a crock of crap.

Change it to the MOP for Pete Rozelle's sake.

[mraynrand]

Well now this all sounds like the Heismann vote, and we will next be determining which regions will vote which way (Southwest for Romo/Watt, Midwest for Rodgers, East for Brady, West for Merlin Olson). Which means this is all a crock of crap.

Change it to the MOP for Pete Rozelle's sake.

Prom King

[Harlan Huckleby]

I would say most of Walton Payton's career is a better example.
Jim Brown never won an NFL championship, and he played on some mediocre teams.
Archie Manning had lousy record.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Change it to the MOP for Pete Rozelle's sake.

Then Matt Flynn is a shoe in. He's the best MOP up player in the league this year.

[mraynrand]

I would say most of Walton Payton's career is a better example.
Jim Brown never won an NFL championship, and he played on some mediocre teams.
Archie Manning had lousy record.

Walton?

[woodbuck27]

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-locker-room-report/article-1/Teammates-say-Aaron-Rodgers-is-hands-down-the-MVP/655fe2cf-66c2-4257-a52e-2d60a67121a6?campaign=email_141229

Teammates say Aaron Rodgers is 'hands down' the MVP


Mike Spofford ... packers.com senior writer

Comment woodbuck27:

I would say that above any official award that this is most valuable to Aaron Rodgers from a personal standpoint.

[pbmax]

I would say most of Walton Payton's career is a better example.
Jim Brown never won an NFL championship, and he played on some mediocre teams.
Archie Manning had lousy record.

1964. Look it up, live it, learn it.

[pbmax]

Walton?

He got one with Portland and then another one or two in Boston as the big slow white guy.

[MadtownPacker]

After yesterday there is no doubt ARod is the man. He was like in 300, he gave them nothing and took everything from them (fuck suh)!!

Crown his ass!!

[woodbuck27]

I believe at some point if not for the balance of the season that Aaron Rodgers was a (if not the) front runner.

Recall what the talk was and NFL MVP before Tom Brady and the New England Patriots arrived in Green Bay?

Wasn't that at least partially billed as the battle between leading candidates?

There is this (not that it is totally respected). There have been times this season when we've read that Aaron Rodgers 'is' the greatest QB the NFL has ever seen :

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000430967/article/aaron-rodgers-leads-list-of-top-10-mvp-candidates

[woodbuck27]

http://www.ibtimes.com/5-nfl-mvp-candidates-2014-season-1764214

5 NFL MVP Candidates For 2014 Season

By Greg Price @GP_IBTimes on December 21 2014 1:29 PM

Comment woodbuck27:

R - E - L - A - X.

Smarter heads will prevail.

It will be Aaron Rodgers.