The Official Week 16 Other Games Thread - Go Redcoats, BearDown and Cowgirls(?)

[pbmax]

"Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist; but football is only two things - blocking and tackling."

- Dan Devine

That explains a lot about Devine actually.

[pbmax]

1) We're not talking about the Packers losing out.

2) We're talking about scenarios where Dallas wins + Green Bay wins this week. pbmax had stated a Dallas win + Green Bay win doesn't guarantee a playoff spot for Green Bay. According to ESPN's playoff machine, if the Cowboys win this week and we win, we are in. Let's say Dallas, Philadelphia, and Green Bay all win this week. Dallas and GB at 11-4 with Philly at 10-5. If we lose next week, we'll be 11-5. If Dallas and Philadelphia win next week, the Cowboys we'll win the East at 12-4. Green Bay would own the tiebreaker over Philly by virtue of their win over Philly. GB would be a Wild Card. If Dallas loses and Philly wins next week, the Eagles we'll win the East. The tiebreaker with Dallas would flip to Green Bay by virtue of a better conference record. GB would be a Wild Card. If Philly loses next week, we'd have a better record. GB would be a Wild Card. I just don't see a scenario where GB doesn't make the playoffs with a win + Dallas win this week.

The nice thing is, rooting for a Dallas win isn't rooting against a first round bye. Dallas would own the tiebreaker over us if we lost a game because our conference record would be the same as Dallas but they own the next tiebreaker. However, if we win out, we own the tiebreaker on the basis of a better conference record.

Go Green Bay and Go Dallas!

You have to figure in a three way tie to wild card scenarios. Presumably, possibly remotely, there is a 3 team scenario where the Packers H2H win over Philly doesn't get them through.

[pbmax]

Here we go. Now, recognize that it took me 8 minutes of fiddling to produce a 4 way tie for the wild card at 11-5 and the odds of the Packers making the playoffs today, before the result at Tampa is know is roughly 93%. But a GB win plus a Dallas win this week does NOT clinch a playoff spot. But regardless, their chances of being in the postseason are good. Winning at this point is more about the 2 seed than the 6 seed, versus making the tourney at this point.


EDIT: I did have a screen shot all cued up of the Packers and Cowboys both winning in Week 16 and Packers getting the tie breaking shaft at 11-5 but I screen capped Week 17 by mistake. Going back, the only way to get that scenario was to have Dallas lose out of conference this week (16) but win in conference next week (17). I could not create a scenario where the Packers were out if they and the Boys won this week.

It might be that a tie is necessary to produce that condition. And the playoff calculator doesn't do ties.

[woodbuck27]

The game went about as one might expect.

Two teams struggling for or to avoid all the hype associated with owning the NO. 1 Draft Pick.

One team Tennessee better on 'O' than the other Jacksonville with a superior 'D' and at home.

Question:

Which team do you pick when straws separate them in overall efficiency?

Right !

That team won the game.

THIS IS JUST AWESOME !

Check this out. It's so much better to win.

Posted: 17 hours ago

EXCLUSIVE: Gus Bradley Postgame Speech

Go inside the locker room as the Jaguars celebrate their win over the Titans on Thursday Night Football.

http://www.jaguars.com/media-gallery/videos/EXCLUSIVE-Gus-Bradley-Postgame-Speech/e778e1ca-cf92-4c6c-9c3d-8394dc5ac1fb

and In more Jaguars news;

Jacksonville QB Blake Bortles wants to start in spite of any lingering injury just like Brett Favre did.

He wants to chase Favre NFL consecutive starts streak record.

I want to be reincarnated and live a life like Mr. Jean Beliveau did.

[Tyrion Lannister]

1) We're not talking about the Packers losing out.

2) We're talking about scenarios where Dallas wins + Green Bay wins this week. pbmax had stated a Dallas win + Green Bay win doesn't guarantee a playoff spot for Green Bay. According to ESPN's playoff machine, if the Cowboys win this week and we win, we are in. Let's say Dallas, Philadelphia, and Green Bay all win this week. Dallas and GB at 11-4 with Philly at 10-5. If we lose next week, we'll be 11-5. If Dallas and Philadelphia win next week, the Cowboys we'll win the East at 12-4. Green Bay would own the tiebreaker over Philly by virtue of their win over Philly. GB would be a Wild Card. If Dallas loses and Philly wins next week, the Eagles we'll win the East. The tiebreaker with Dallas would flip to Green Bay by virtue of a better conference record. GB would be a Wild Card. If Philly loses next week, we'd have a better record. GB would be a Wild Card. I just don't see a scenario where GB doesn't make the playoffs with a win + Dallas win this week.

The nice thing is, rooting for a Dallas win isn't rooting against a first round bye. Dallas would own the tiebreaker over us if we lost a game because our conference record would be the same as Dallas but they own the next tiebreaker. However, if we win out, we own the tiebreaker on the basis of a better conference record.

Go Green Bay and Go Dallas!

Well stated.

[Harlan Huckleby]

That explains a lot about Devine actually.

actually that is a Vince Lombardi quote. I thought it was famous

[mraynrand]

Oh boy, "Enhanced Longevity." But will I get to feel like I'm 80 again?

90 is the new 80

[mraynrand]

"Some people try to find things in this game that don't exist; but football is only two things - blocking and tackling."

- Dan Devine

Deliberately misquoting and misattributing Lomabardi? negative repped.

Thanks for deducting reputation from this user.

[pbmax]

actually that is a Vince Lombardi quote. I thought it was famous

Explaining the joke is useless, so i will just cop to the failure.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Deliberately misquoting and misattributing Lomabardi? negative repped.

who dat?

[pbmax]

Well it turns out the ESPN and Yahoo! playoff machines each have the tie game option. Still couldn't find the apparently anomalous set of circumstances that NFL.com has where GB and DAL win in Week 16 doesn't clinch for GB.

At 11-5 (only way to win in Wk 16 and not win division), they have the tie break over Dallas (conf) and Eagles (head to head). Even if you make Eagles the Division winner, can't get Dallas over the Packers for WC.

Couldn't create a tie game that helped.

[pbmax]

Packers.com agrees with Tank and ESPN:

With a Green Bay win, the Packers would need either the Eagles (9-5) to lose or the Cowboys (10-4) to win to be assured of getting in. Just one of those other games would need to go Green Bay’s way, but not both.

http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Philadelphia-Dallas-games-matter-for-Packers-right-now/ad29e998-f270-4637-8dfe-f2598df51a1a?adbid=546414761106083840&adbpl=tw&adbpr=35865630&campaign=social_20141220_37692147

[Harlan Huckleby]

We want Cowboys to lose so Packers have homefield over them in playoffs. That's the royal "we"

[Maxie the Taxi]

We want Cowboys to lose so Packers have homefield over them in playoffs. That's the royal "we"

But the Cowboys play better away than at home. Ergo, shouldn't we want the Cowboys to win?

[woodbuck27]

The Roughing the passer rule has to be reviewed in the off season.

Washington got a call on a bang bang play. RGIII pass's and is hit softly within a second. The defender actually relaxed the hit closing and quickly opening his arms on the hit. It was a soft hit. RGII felt little impact.

The Official is right there ! Roughing the passer is called.

The call gives Washington new life and they go on to score a TD to go out in front by 3 Points in the 3rd Qtr.

Refferfuckin' Refereeing. What the 'H' is this football or 'Pansy ball'?

I really wonder sometimes if the fix isn't in. The officials get a nice check from Vegas?

There is no way that Washington should win this game without the Officials helping.

The score is now 17-14 and the Eagles are lining up another short FG. Pokey missed a chip shot earlier a 34 Yarder.

Holy mackeral he miss's it again.

Last Play - 02:28 Q3

C.Parkey 46 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-J.Dorenbos, Holder-D.Jones.

Cody Parkey came into this game 29 of 31 and he miss's two so far today.

As I'm writing this the Redskins scored again after another long pass to DeSean Jackson who's up to 4 receptions and 126 yards on his day so far.