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  • What does that "4.5 high" thing mean?
    Dez Bryant has slower 40 times - 4.56 I think, meaning he is probably 4.6 now. House and Shields can run with him, but he's more physical so Shields struggles with that.
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    • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
      The scheme that helped turn the season around has been when Capers went to a cover 3. ....
      Capers also has used some zero coverages (if I understand that correctly): corners play man with no safety help. Also have seen one safety - if there is one dominant WR (like Bryant), can shade his side, no? There have also been a whole collection of plays where it seems there has been a matchup zone mentality that if a guy comes in your zone area, you latch on in man coverage. Either that or very specific disciplined man coverages where different guys end up in single coverages (like Burnett on Ebron). I don't know if I'm labeling the coverage correctly, but that's kinda what I see on "the tape."
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      • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
        What does that "4.5 high" thing mean?
        Bryant has 4.5-4.6 40 time. He's not going to blow by our CB's. The worry is more in him highpointing passes downfield and using power to break tackles after the catch.
        Go PACK

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        • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
          Capers also has used some zero coverages (if I understand that correctly): corners play man with no safety help. Also have seen one safety - if there is one dominant WR (like Bryant), can shade his side, no? There have also been a whole collection of plays where it seems there has been a matchup zone mentality that if a guy comes in your zone area, you latch on in man coverage. Either that or very specific disciplined man coverages where different guys end up in single coverages (like Burnett on Ebron). I don't know if I'm labeling the coverage correctly, but that's kinda what I see on "the tape."
          Yeah, yer right, Dom mixes it up.

          Cover 3 has been effective for the Pack, but the days of living off one cover in this league with all the multiple WR sets nowadays are long gone.

          There are also multiple things going on in one scheme, For instance, there are two kinds of coverage in any zone. One kind of zone cover is called pattern. In a pattern zone cover, the defender is responsible for an area of the field. Just like playing zone defense in basketball, you cover an area of the floor (field) and shift to defend in that geography. The other zone coverage is called lock. When the offensive player comes in your area, you lock onto him and cover his ass in M2M mechanics.

          This can change depending on what the offense runs in their play call. Sometimes, the Mike or safety will make a coverage change to ensure proper coverage. A common one is changing from a pattern to a lock cover. You can see this when the offense shifts. The defenders also shift their coverage. The common signal for switching from pattern to lock is a clenched fist. That means the defensive man has his guy from the LOS to the goal line.

          You can have fun trying to read the coverages yourself. One big read is the defenders posture. When a defender is in pattern zone, they are more loosy goosy, focusing on their coverage area than the man himself. When the defender is in lock (or M2M) he's focusing on his guy. Commonly, you'll see the defender hunkered down, focused, with the posture of a man about to jump into a swimming pool. Next time you watch the all 22, try to figure out the overall coverage by the posture of the defenders.

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          • Originally posted by pittstang5 View Post
            One thing the Packers have going for them is that they are not facing a supreme D-line, at least I don't think so. The last three games the Packers played, were against, arguably the better D-lines in the game (Buffalo, Tampa and Detroit). Dallas's D-line doesn't scare me like Detroit and Buffalo do. Rodgers should have time in the pocket and if Dallas blitzes, well, Rodgers has proven he'll make teams pay. The o-line was pretty damn good against Detroit in the last game, opening up some holes for Lacy. They should be able to repeat that, if not be better against Dallas.

            Dallas's offense is another story. They have playmakers at key positions - RB, WR & TE. This is what scares me. Dallas can score and score quick. Rattle Romo and I think we'll be ok.

            The Packer Defense is going to be fired up. I gotta feeling of all the defensive players, Peppers is gonna have a huge game. He's been in the league for so long - I'm sure he's realized he's closer than ever to getting to the big game. He's gonna be hungry.
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            • Originally posted by KYPack View Post
              Yeah, yer right, Dom mixes it up.

              Cover 3 has been effective for the Pack, but the days of living off one cover in this league with all the multiple WR sets nowadays are long gone.

              There are also multiple things going on in one scheme, For instance, there are two kinds of coverage in any zone. One kind of zone cover is called pattern. In a pattern zone cover, the defender is responsible for an area of the field. Just like playing zone defense in basketball, you cover an area of the floor (field) and shift to defend in that geography. The other zone coverage is called lock. When the offensive player comes in your area, you lock onto him and cover his ass in M2M mechanics.

              This can change depending on what the offense runs in their play call. Sometimes, the Mike or safety will make a coverage change to ensure proper coverage. A common one is changing from a pattern to a lock cover. You can see this when the offense shifts. The defenders also shift their coverage. The common signal for switching from pattern to lock is a clenched fist. That means the defensive man has his guy from the LOS to the goal line.

              You can have fun trying to read the coverages yourself. One big read is the defenders posture. When a defender is in pattern zone, they are more loosy goosy, focusing on their coverage area than the man himself. When the defender is in lock (or M2M) he's focusing on his guy. Commonly, you'll see the defender hunkered down, focused, with the posture of a man about to jump into a swimming pool. Next time you watch the all 22, try to figure out the overall coverage by the posture of the defenders.
              Got yaa.

              Thanks.
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              • You fucking guys and all yer smart talk and shit is making me smarter.

                KY/Rands posts are what makes this freak show worth attending.

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                • I also think Peppers is due for a big game. You gotta figure he's got a few of those left in the bag and a whiff of that trophy + some rest should be some extra motivation for him.
                  When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro ~Hunter S.

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                  • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                    Dez Bryant has slower 40 times - 4.56 I think, meaning he is probably 4.6 now. House and Shields can run with him, but he's more physical so Shields struggles with that.
                    OK, OK.

                    I wasn't think 40 time at all.

                    Makes sense now.

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                    • Originally posted by George Cumby View Post
                      You fucking guys and all yer smart talk and shit is making me smarter.

                      KY/Rands posts are what makes this freak show worth attending.
                      PBmax is numero uno
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                      • Found some interesting stats....

                        http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nf...broncos-colts/

                        The Packers even struggle in the exact spot where the Cowboys run the ball best. Dallas loathes running the ball directly up the gut and instead chooses to run far more frequently behind its tackles. Thirty-six percent of Dallas’s carries this year went to left end or behind left tackle, which was the highest rate in football. The Cowboys’ vaunted offensive line was also wildly successful on those runs, producing the league’s sixth-most Adjusted Line Yards on runs behind left end and the third-best rate on runs at the left tackle.

                        Green Bay? It had problems. Teams ran toward its right side (the left side of the offense) at a league-average frequency, but fared well in the process. The Packers’ defensive front was 28th in Adjusted Line Yards allowed to left end and 30th on runs at left tackle. It got beaten up. Otherwise, the Packers ranked between 16th and 19th in runs to the rest of the field, so it wasn’t just a product of a bad defense; there’s something legitimate to worry about when Dallas runs DeMarco Murray to the left on Sunday. Given the likelihood that right tackle Doug Free will miss another game, the Packers can expect Jason Garrett & Co. to run behind the left side of the line even more frequently.
                        Early in the year the Packers had a lot of trouble with runs to the offense's LT, especially in regards to Clay playing the zone read incorrectly. Over the past few weeks I haven't noticed it being a huge problem though. Let's hope Perry is healthy and up to the task of shutting down the run to that side.

                        One other item of interest..

                        Interestingly enough, the Packers also have an enormous split in terms of DVOA by side. They’ve posted the league’s best DVOA (minus-37.6 percent) on throws to the right side of the offense, meaning they’re going up against the left cornerback, which is Tramon Williams’s side of the field.2 Elsewhere, Green Bay is 22nd in DVOA on throws to the left side of the field (where Sam Shields lies in wait) and a brutal 29th on throws up the middle. The Cowboys don’t keep their receivers on one side; Bryant has 39 receptions on throws toward the left side of the field and 43 on throws to the right side.
                        Struggles in the middle of the field are not surprising. I thought Shields was having a down year, but didn't realize it was as bad as it is.
                        Go PACK

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                        • Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                          Found some interesting stats....

                          http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nf...broncos-colts/



                          Early in the year the Packers had a lot of trouble with runs to the offense's LT, especially in regards to Clay playing the zone read incorrectly. Over the past few weeks I haven't noticed it being a huge problem though. Let's hope Perry is healthy and up to the task of shutting down the run to that side.

                          One other item of interest..



                          Struggles in the middle of the field are not surprising. I thought Shields was having a down year, but didn't realize it was as bad as it is.
                          Sam Shields is going to have a busy day Sunday. He'll be severely tested.
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                          ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                          ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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                          • Originally posted by mraynrand View Post
                            PBmax is numero uno
                            pbmax thinks that a Rod Marinelli defense without Suh, Ansah/Avril and Levy (from his Lions days) will not be able to perform the normal, physical Cover 2 or 2 Man voodoo that has hampered the Packers in recent times (goes for trouble with Bears Defense in Lovie's glory days).

                            He is missing a lineman and Rolando is hurt. I think there is a real chance the Packers can light them up.
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                            • Originally posted by Bossman641 View Post
                              Found some interesting stats....

                              http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nf...broncos-colts/



                              Early in the year the Packers had a lot of trouble with runs to the offense's LT, especially in regards to Clay playing the zone read incorrectly. Over the past few weeks I haven't noticed it being a huge problem though. Let's hope Perry is healthy and up to the task of shutting down the run to that side.

                              One other item of interest..



                              Struggles in the middle of the field are not surprising. I thought Shields was having a down year, but didn't realize it was as bad as it is.
                              Perry has made a difference here.
                              Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                              • Originally posted by pbmax View Post
                                Perry has made a difference here.
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                                Nick Perry hasn't had a SACK since Oct. 19, 2014 Vs Carolina.

                                Up till then he didn't have any starts but he did manage 14 Tackles and 3 SACKS.



                                Since the Carolina game Nick Perry has had 4 starts ... 9 tackles and ZERO SACKS.
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                                ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
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