The 2015 " I just can't stay out of jail " Thread .

[pbmax]

who can tell? So don't even try to draw comparisons then. Why get hung up on differences in money then, if comparisons are null and void?

I actually agree with you on the treatment part - try as much as possible to treat everyone the same when it comes to prosecution and sentencing. But that isn't how it works in practice - probably for the same underlying reasons as why people would think $$ are a uniform and overarching demographic characteristic.

Even if studying it is problematic due to a small sample, finances are a huge part of a demographic. It has to be accounted for in some way, even if direct population study doesn't get you useful info at first pass.

[Patler]

who can tell? So don't even try to draw comparisons then. Why get hung up on differences in money then, if comparisons are null and void?

I actually agree with you on the treatment part - try as much as possible to treat everyone the same when it comes to prosecution and sentencing. But that isn't how it works in practice - probably for the same underlying reasons as why people would think $$ are a uniform and overarching demographic characteristic.

You were the one who asked for "a side-by-side comparison to a random sample of demographically matched men." All I have done is try to figure out who YOU want to compare them to. I didn't make any statements one way or the other about the frequency of arrests among NFLers.

I'm not hung up on money at all. I simply asked if $ should be a factor for you in establishing the comparison you want. Money does determine where you can live, how you can live, what things you can do, where you can go. Great wealth also attracts "friends" you never knew you had.

[George Cumby]

"Overall, Black Americans are arrested at 2.6 times the per-capita rate of all other Americans, and this ratio is even higher for murder (6.3 times) and robbery (8.1 times)."

Source: FBI.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43/10tbl43a.xls

[woodbuck27]

This post isn't about anything new but all the same I'll post this here:

http://news.yahoo.com/final-pre-trial-hearing-aaron-hernandez-2013-murder-062258525--spt.html

Final pre-trial hearing for Aaron Hernandez in 2013 murder

FALL RIVER, Mass. (AP) —

" Former New England Patriots star Aaron Hernandez is due in court for his final appearance before he goes on trial Friday for allegedly murdering semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd in 2013."

[MadScientist]

Jets LB Jermaine Cunningham gets in on this list:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...late-december/
http://www.nj.com/union/index.ssf/20...nsporting.html

It sounds like the main charge is something like sending out a naked picture of someone, but a "destruction of clothing" charge is a new one.

[woodbuck27]

RE: Jets LB Jermaine Cunningham

" He was also charged with destruction of clothing "

Ohh no Mr. Bill. That's very serious....paranoia.

mmmm ...What a pervert.

[mraynrand]

You were the one who asked for "a side-by-side comparison to a random sample of demographically matched men." All I have done is try to figure out who YOU want to compare them to. I didn't make any statements one way or the other about the frequency of arrests among NFLers.

I'm not hung up on money at all. I simply asked if $ should be a factor for you in establishing the comparison you want. Money does determine where you can live, how you can live, what things you can do, where you can go. Great wealth also attracts "friends" you never knew you had.

Ya, sorry, I get annoyed at this constant barrage directed toward NFL players, because I'm certain there's an agenda behind it. Still, I'd compare them to peers with (few) and without money, and compare them to themselves, before and after contracts. And yes, it's a challenging demographic comparison not just because of the money, but because the mechanism of acquiring the money is so different than for others with money. Think of the vast difference in people who acquire wealth by other means, like entertainers, doctors, entrepreneurs, etc. It's like a physical lottery for a lot of kids and doesn't compare well with people who gradually acquire wealth over a lifetime of work.

[Patler]

Ya, sorry, I get annoyed at this constant barrage directed toward NFL players, because I'm certain there's an agenda behind it. Still, I'd compare them to peers with (few) and without money, and compare them to themselves, before and after contracts. And yes, it's a challenging demographic comparison not just because of the money, but because the mechanism of acquiring the money is so different than for others with money. Think of the vast difference in people who acquire wealth by other means, like entertainers, doctors, entrepreneurs, etc. It's like a physical lottery for a lot of kids and doesn't compare well with people who gradually acquire wealth over a lifetime of work.

The closest comparison for some might be a lottery winner. Little money today, millions tomorrow.

[George Cumby]

The closest comparison for some might be a lottery winner. Little money today, millions tomorrow.

Well. They're winners of the genetic lottery, to be sure.

[smuggler]

Well. They're winners of the genetic lottery, to be sure.

Physically, yeah. Mentally, not so much. But, brains don't pay as well as jumping ability and height.

[George Cumby]

Ain't that the truth!

[QBME]

Chicago DB Tim Jennings DUI - http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...107-story.html

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/10/greg-hardy-will-stand-trial-on-february-9/

Greg Hardy will stand trial on February 9

Posted by Mike Florio on January 10, 2015, 7:29 AM EST

[woodbuck27]

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/10/jets-rb-johnson-arrested-for-open-carry-of-firearm

Jets RB (Chris) Johnson arrested for open carry of firearm


The Sports Xchange

First posted: Saturday, January 10, 2015 04:54 PM EST | Updated: Saturday, January 10, 2015 05:04 PM EST

" New York Jets running back Chris Johnson was arrested Friday night in Orlando, Fla., and charged with the open carrying of a firearm.

The Orlando Police Department confirmed the arrest for a second-degree misdemeanor but refused to disclose any details. "

[Patler]

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/01/10...rry-of-firearm

Jets RB (Chris) Johnson arrested for open carry of firearm


The Sports Xchange

First posted: Saturday, January 10, 2015 04:54 PM EST | Updated: Saturday, January 10, 2015 05:04 PM EST

" New York Jets running back Chris Johnson was arrested Friday night in Orlando, Fla., and charged with the open carrying of a firearm.

The Orlando Police Department confirmed the arrest for a second-degree misdemeanor but refused to disclose any details. "

I don't think this one is a big deal. I read an article that said it was for an improperly cased gun in his car. He had all the proper permits and registrations, but apparently had it in a closed shoulder bag of some sort (one article called it a book bag), and the law requires a locked case when in the car.