How do you beat the Seahawks?

[channtheman]

My gut too. Woody's as well. KY also on board. You aren't alone.

Add me to that list. I think Seattle is good but a bit overrated. They've played very few decent QB's this year. Week 1 was a mirage, and we will not see a repeat of that.

[pbmax]

Well, that shot doesn't really stop Fitz, maybe slows him down a touch. It might as much to help Sherman get up to speed as slow down Fitz.

But its a bad throw, short and away from the sideline. Sherman can afford to look at the QB in the short area not because of route concepts, but because the safety is over the top, being patently unworried about the other side of the formation.

[pbmax]

I am not sure he will risk it with a hobbled Rodgers, but you can see why McCarthy was going deep in the Fail Mary game early. Nelson or Jones were going to get on top of that coverage, the safety will need to choose and a deep sideline throw will beat either CB. Rodgers just didn't have enough time while Bulaga and Newhouse struggled.

[King Friday]

John Kuhn's days are numbered. He's pathetically slow these days. He's having trouble holding onto the easiest of dump off passes. However, John Kuhn will be one of the most important players on the roster this week.

Kuhn's blocking will be absolutely necessary to win this game at Seattle. He has to get to the second level and wipe out the LBs for our run game to do the kind of damage necessary to win this game.

The value of the FB has declined along with the strength of NFL defenses. In this game, against an elite defense, Kuhn's value will be readily apparent if the Packers use him properly.

[denverYooper]

I am not sure he will risk it with a hobbled Rodgers, but you can see why McCarthy was going deep in the Fail Mary game early. Nelson or Jones were going to get on top of that coverage, the safety will need to choose and a deep sideline throw will beat either CB. Rodgers just didn't have enough time while Bulaga and Newhouse struggled.

They can be had by a good QB who's willing to attack those. Rivers this year and Luck last year had some success there. Both of those guys are less risk averse as elite QB's go, which is probably another element needed.

It'd be interesting to see them play good Flacco. He lives (and died) on those.

[KYPack]

Rodgers just didn't have enough time while Bulaga and Newhouse struggled.

It was Sherrod.

Doesn't it seem like he was from a different era, but only was cut a few months ago?

For all you Marshmallow fans, the Bengals benched him and picked up Eric Winston as a replacement.

[smuggler]

The way to beat Sherman's press move is to have the receiver push off at the snap and hit another player on the underside of it for an easy 5-8 yards. He's bailing at the start, and he'd be smaller than Jordy, Boykin, or Adams.

It's similarly weak against a run call.

[pbmax]

It was Sherrod.

Doesn't it seem like he was from a different era, but only was cut a few months ago?

For all you Marshmallow fans, the Bengals benched him and picked up Eric Winston as a replacement.

I was talking about the 2012 game, the Fail Mary when M3 and AR came out looking to go long. Newhouse had replaced Clifton at LT.

[mraynrand]

For all you Marshmallow fans, the Bengals benched him and picked up Eric Winston as a replacement.

Didn't see that one coming. Was certain Outhouse would make the pro bowl with the Bengals.

[KYPack]

I was talking about the 2012 game, the Fail Mary when M3 and AR came out looking to go long. Newhouse had replaced Clifton at LT.

OOps.

Yer right, should have caught the reference to Jones as WR.

[3irty1]

These Seahawks are built opposite the 2010 Packers defense but with a similar philosophy.

Their great strength is their secondary, but what good is a secondary if you don't get to use it? They scheme almost exclusively against the run. 4-3 over aligned as a 3-4 would with a 2-gaping NT and 5-tech on the field. 8 in the box is so normal with Kam Chancellor you could call their base D a 4-4 split. They dare you to pass which maximizes their advantage.

In 2009 the Packers were an elite rushing defense. In 2010 we used this to our advantage by daring our opponents to run by staying in nickel all the time. Seattles version is much better because its inherently resilient to playing defense with offense but the game planning philosophy is the same. In 2011 even though we kept selling out against the pass, our pass defense sprung enough leaks that the whole defense unraveled anyways.

Mebane could be their version of Nick Collins. Maybe not on his own but with the recent injury of Hill (basically this season's Clinton McDonald), that front could be leaky enough for us to run on even while they're daring us to pass. It's tough sledding but every play we're on the field is another opportunity for the MVP to find an exploit. Opportunities multiply as they are seized right?

I can't believe its only Thursday.

[Pugger]

I am stunned to see Steve Smith stopped by a one handed punch. Smith isn't tall and he is old, maybe he has lost a thing or two or just didn't expect it in that spot.

But any receiver worth his salt should be able to abuse that technique. Not to mention stopping and bumping into Smith should be illegal contact or DPI, it was after five yards.

Unfortunately, I suspect if someone has trashed this technique earlier, I would have been alerted to the fire alarms going off at the First Take set.

If the officials allow their secondary to bump our guys after 5 yards we might have a problem. Wasn't this crap they did last year the reason why the zebras were told to watch for that and penalize accordingly? After seeing that clip from the playoff game against Carolina - I'm assuming this clip is from that game - it appears the PI and illegal contact was being ignored again.

[Pugger]

Well, that shot doesn't really stop Fitz, maybe slows him down a touch. It might as much to help Sherman get up to speed as slow down Fitz.

But its a bad throw, short and away from the sideline. Sherman can afford to look at the QB in the short area not because of route concepts, but because the safety is over the top, being patently unworried about the other side of the formation.

Its been a while since Seattle has played an elite QB. The last time they did - Dallas and Romo had been playing great this year - they got beat at home.

[mraynrand]

If the officials allow their secondary to bump our guys after 5 yards we might have a problem. Wasn't this crap they did last year the reason why the zebras were told to watch for that and penalize accordingly? After seeing that clip from the playoff game against Carolina - I'm assuming this clip is from that game - it appears the PI and illegal contact was being ignored again.

Nah, that has to be at least last year - Smith was with the Ravens this year. Still, I'm certain he was getting similarly punched by Browner in the Patriot's game!

[Pugger]

Nah, that has to be at least last year - Smith was with the Ravens this year. Still, I'm certain he was getting similarly punched by Browner in the Patriot's game!

Yes, you are right. Smith isn't with Carolina now. My bad.