How do you beat the Seahawks?

[MadScientist]

We need to tack up wist's posts to the Seattle locker room, so they can get cocky and over confident.

[channtheman]

They are beatable. Without watching the games, I have seen that Seattle has been in close games with crappy teams until the very end when a pick six or something made it look like a blowout. Our gameplan week 1, combined with a new center, combined with us generally starting the year like crap means this should be a competitive game. I'm more confident we win this game than I was before the Dallas game.

[Maxie the Taxi]

They are beatable. Without watching the games, I have seen that Seattle has been in close games with crappy teams until the very end when a pick six or something made it look like a blowout. Our gameplan week 1, combined with a new center, combined with us generally starting the year like crap means this should be a competitive game. I'm more confident we win this game than I was before the Dallas game.

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They are beatable in Seattle. The Cowgirls did it. Why not us?

[Joemailman]

Seahawks offensively have been thriving on big plays. They don't get a lot of 10-15 play drives for TD's. If the Packers can take away the big plays, they have a chance to force the Seahawks to kick field goals when they do move the ball into Packer territory. A couple of weeks ago, the Cardinals were playing tough defense against them until the let Luke Wilson get behind them for an 80 yard TD pass. Last week it was Jermaine Kearse for a 63 yard TD pass. Can't let that happen.

[3irty1]

I'm no expert on the Sea Squawks but whenever I turn them on I see Wilson completing big play passes to Baldwin and Kearse, and sometimes even their anonymous TEs. I am sure that is at least partly attributable to the amount of attention the opposing defense is paying to the running game, but it does make me wonder whether their wides are really that bad or if they're just underutilized. In what ways do they suck?

Wilson definitely squeezes out every drop of potential those guys have. Lately it does seem like their passing game has been thriving from all the jag on bum matchups available to them over the last couple of months. Both Baldwin and Kearse can disappear for long stretches because neither gets much separation. Baldwin is best as a slot guy, more quick than fast and good at finding room against the zone 7 and 8 man box defenses everyone plays against Seattle. Kearse is the bigger, faster, stronger of the two but isn't really a possession receiver. He's like what Kevin Dorsey will be in a year or so. He's come up big for them in the playoffs last year but as a finesse 9-route receiver without elite size he's the exact type of guy Shields and Tramon erase from existence even if he weren't the poor man's version of a receiver in his mold. To their credit both are serviceable blockers. Lord knows they get enough practice.

[Tony Oday]

They will slaughter us like Yeoman Jensen on an away mission in Star Trek.

[wist43]

We need to tack up wist's posts to the Seattle locker room, so they can get cocky and over confident.

Yes that, and someone spike dunderdummy's coffee so that he can't get out of the bathroom for 3 hours...

We'd have a fighting chance then!!!

[smuggler]

You know, I don't think our corners have been able to come down with a jump ball in a while. I think we're due for one.

[3irty1]

Seattle would have to drive a bus of virgins into the mount rainier volcano to score 36 again without a bunch of help from our offense. That was the 2nd highest they scored all season and a lot of things had to go just right for it to happen.

[KYPack]

Anger, guys pissed at the opening loss.

And on a minor note, Dan Quinn Hawk DC is in line for the ATL HC gig.

Remember when we had the one loss team, but Joe PHilbin's kid died and he was up for the Miami HC gig? That shit messes you up. As it will mess up SEA. Better troops, motivated boys on D will make their plays in this game and we will go on to the SB as the team favored to beat Indy, the upset winner over NE.

Hey, it's my dream, ain't it.

[mraynrand]

KY, no way their DC will be a distraction. Seattle defense plays like terminators or Aliens - they don't give a shit about anything going on around them but coming after you and beating the living hell out of you. Packers will have to have a sustained, four quarter physical and mental toughness to beat 'em. But they have to be smart. Lacy can't be all like lowering his helmet to prove how tough he is, because that's what gets him KO'ed from the game.

[mraynrand]

Seattle would have to drive a bus of virgins into the mount rainier volcano to score 36 again without a bunch of help from our offense. That was the 2nd highest they scored all season and a lot of things had to go just right for it to happen.

They will only score that much if the offense and/or ST collapses. Their offense against the Packer D is probably only good for 24, best case scenario.

If Boyd is hobbled, that's an extra problem though...

[Fosco33]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000458441/article/aaron-rodgers-packers-have-path-to-playoff-revenge-in-seattle

[mraynrand]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...nge-in-seattle

"With a lead blocker and slot receiver capable of digging out the linebacker or safety in the hole, Lacy is able to shoot through the crack en route to a 19-yard gain."

It's a thing of beauty to see Cobb go in there and get the LB off his feet.

[Carolina_Packer]

Once again, the Seattle O-line is noticeably less awesome than the Dallas O-line, and in general, the Dallas offense is much better than Seattle's offense.

To Wist's point about giving up big plays, Wilson has shown that even if you rush him and get through a line that is not as solid this year, he can break contain and kill you with big runs, and then slide to avoid contact whenever he wants. I know the NFL is trying to protect QB's in the open field, but I really don't like how they can just become like sliding base-runners and just give themselves up when the tacklers are coming. The running backs must love the fact that they are still fair game for getting the crap kicked out of them when they get in the open field. I'm sure you know what you're signing up for.

The tall order is setting the edge to contain Wilson and getting Lynch to the ground regularly, and minimizing his affect. Our run defense was much worse at the start of the season than it is now, but they are still not shut down. I think Burnett has to have a career game, perhaps at the LOS if they decide to challenge Wilson to beat them from the pocket, which assume any success stopping the run. Gap discipline and not falling for their misdirection stuff will also be key.