Will Peyton Manning Retire?

[woodbuck27]

How can anyone ever come out of this mess in Denver looking good?

I'll be watching all of the damage control in this one.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.denverpost.com/kiszla/ci_27308220/kiszla-broncos-gm-john-elway-needs-change-blueprint?source=infinite

Kiszla: Broncos GM John Elway needs to change the blueprint

By Mark Kiszla ... The Denver Post

Posted: 01/12/2015 09:27:32 PM MST8 Comments | Updated: about 8 hours ago

Comment woodbuck27:

John Elway needs to construct a football team not an All Star Team. He needs to encourage open lines of communication all week and in and out of the locker room. Without the feeling of a high spirited camaraderie as we see evident in Seattle. An NFL organization shouldn't expect to win the Lombardi Trophy.

A tight crew turns the screw.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.denverpost.com/hochman/ci_27307734/hochman-john-elway-gets-leave-his-imprint-new?source=pkg

Benjamin Hochman

Hochman: John Elway gets to leave his imprint on new Broncos

By Benjamin Hochman ... The Denver Post

Posted: 01/12/2015 08:05:46 PM MST1 Comment | Updated: about 8 hours ago

"Cold world," Demaryius Thomas tweeted,

" though it's unclear whether the receiver bobbled and dropped his phone first."

" .... Real world, D.T.

You and the Broncos were not prepared to win in the playoffs. You were outcoached. .....

The Broncos were not tough enough when it mattered most. Elway invested big time in nasty and didn't get a return on his investment. It was Elway himself who had to chew out the team at midseason, just like in the preseason of 2013. So on Monday.............

Elway and Fox "parted ways." ....."


Comment woodbuck27:

Another article RE: the change up in Denver. This one pulls no punches.

[woodbuck27]

http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_27253646/sole-reason-broncos-arent-no-1-no-soul?obref=obinsite

Woody Paige

Paige: Sole reason Broncos aren't No. 1: no soul

By: Woody Paige ... The Denver Post

Posted: 01/04/2015 12:01:00 AM MST .................. 44 Comments

" ...Of the Broncos' 22 starters in the postseason, half account for a combined 43 Pro Bowl selections. Another four were PB-worthy this year.

The Broncos possess a brain (the most cerebral quarterback in history) and a beating heart, and aren't cowardly.

What's lacking?

"... if we only had a soul." ...."



Comment woodbuck27:

I've played on Championship Teams and I certainly agree. The team must have a lot more than big stars. I look at this Bronco team that was designed primarily to support the acquisition of Peyton Manning and it sure looks terrific on paper but what's wrong?

What's wrong is where that design started and has stalled.

You have arguably a top Three QB All Time and an aging QB in Peyton Manning. A QB with an unenviable post season record, that one Super Bowl win aside. Peyton Manning doesn't overall get it done in the playoffs.

The Denver Broncos aren't going to the AFC Championship game for easy for John Elway to define reasons. He merely needs to take his foot off the pedal and ....... think.

" Am I in this now for a short term more positive result or do I blow it all up and formulate a new design? "

Personally as the NFL fan observer. I don't give Denver " a fish in a barrel chance " of winning another Super Bowl with Peyton Manning. As the GM would I award Peyton Manning another huge years salary of a reported $21.5 M ?

NO !

That's a silly entirely ego driven move that I would advise ignoring. Just one more season with Peyton Manning one year older. Why would that make sense in terms of a more positive gurantee?

I'd offer Peyton Manning the opportunity to retire and if he decided to waffle. I'd release him. I'd wish Peyton Manning well with his new team as he continues his quest for every NFL passing record; sets a benchmark that will be extremely difficult to exceed.

This is going to come down to a battle of male ego's.

If John Elway is smart he wins.

If Peyton Manning is smart and aware he wins by simply retiring soon. That move would IMO garner the most respect for his body of work and how he left the game. That move would also make John Elway's decisions and the direction for his team easier.

[woodbuck27]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/13/could-peyton-play-elsewhere-in-2015/

Could Peyton play elsewhere in 2015?

Posted by Mike Florio on January 13, 2015, 9:19 AM EST

Comment woodbuck27:

Peyton Manning has options.

I hope he retires. I'll be surprized if he does.

He may be pushed to a new team. I do think he and Elway will agree on one more kick at the can. There has been too much already invested in that objective...the Super Bowl. Both of these men have ego's that simply won't let go right now.

Peyton Manning fails again in Denver in 2015. NO!

He continues to set new records and raise the bar on those he already owns. $$$$ He gets another boatload of money $$$$.

Back to Peyton's ego.

[Pugger]

Unless Elway hires a HC/OC that runs the same or similar offense Manning is familiar with I wouldn't be surprised to see Peyton either retire or be cut/ask for his release not unlike the situation in Indy at the end of Manning's time there.

[woodbuck27]

I just watched the Indy at Denver game and with an eye on Peyton Manning's movement in the pocket and his footwork on throws.

There was nothing wrong with that man's right let that might be used as an excuse for his poor performance.

The issue with Peyton Manning and performance was with his accuracy and velocity...that fell off dramatically with the length of his pass attempts. His arm looked simply ...tired.

If John Elway invests $21.5 M$ on 2015 and Peyton Manning. With the objective again being nothing but a Super Bowl win he's delusional. I don't see that being the case.

I'm predicting the smart move. Peyton Manning will be with another team in 2015.

[Teamcheez1]

Reading between the lines, it sounds like Fox didn't want Manning back, but Elway does. I'm going to have to side with Fox on this one. It's time to move on.

[smuggler]

If they cut bait on Fox because they wanted Manning to play ONE more season, they deserve their 2015 suffering.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I, for one, will miss Manning tremendously when he does retire.
Not for his games, after all, I see very few of those.
But, his commercials are great!

You will miss him as much as Joe Montanna

[KYPack]

I just watched the Indy at Denver game and with an eye on Peyton Manning's movement in the pocket and his footwork on throws.

There was nothing wrong with that man's right let that might be used as an excuse for his poor performance.

The issue with Peyton Manning and performance was with his accuracy and velocity...that fell off dramatically with the length of his pass attempts. His arm looked simply ...tired.

If John Elway invests $21.5 M$ on 2015 and Peyton Manning. With the objective again being nothing but a Super Bowl win he's delusional. I don't see that being the case.

I'm predicting the smart move. Peyton Manning will be with another team in 2015.

I dunno Wood. I went to the Monday nite game in Cincy. He looked funny in his movements and he definitely lacked arm strength.

Hard to figure is he wants to go to another team (I know he just shy of some records). Another team would have a massive install for a guy that might only play for a year. But, it's Peyton Manning, he won't be out of a job.

What about Buffalo if Den doesn't work out?

Rex and Peyton?

That would have more sizzle Buffalo has had in 50 years!

[pbmax]

Fox probably pulled a power play. He was almost certain to lose his OC which might have complicated relations with Manning if he comes back. He might also lose Del Rio.

He could lose Manning. That leaves a huge hole in the roster and on the sidelines. He probably didn't want to hesitate if it was going to be rebuilding project and he had 3 more years to find a QB. Go to the Bears, same rebuilding project, but new five year deal.

Go to Atlanta, five year deal and Matt Ryan and rebuild defense.

[KYPack]

This playoff loss was Peyton Mannings NINTH one and done in his career.

Career stat that makes you go hmmm...

[woodbuck27]

This playoff loss was Peyton Mannings NINTH one and done in his career.

Career stat that makes you go hmmm...

Take that one Super Bowl win away and Peyton Manning performed poorly in the playoffs:

Overall in 24 playoff games he's 11 wins and 13 loss's for a 0.458 losing percentage.

That ranks him down there with the likes of Bernie Kosar, Neil O'Donnell and Kerry Collins.

The fellas on the NFL Network are discussing Peyton Manning's future right now. One of the great all time playoff performing QB's All Time will figure in Peyton Manning's immediate future. Would John Elway make an error? Take a risk in the teams immediate future at a high cost? I don't believe so.

Peyton Manning is done as a Denver Bronco because that makes good sense. Sure Elway has a lot in place but that was for the ultimate result which again failed this season. A great part of that failure was the performance of Peyton Manning. The only thing for sure is that he's one year older next season.

Peyton Manning is done as playoff performer and was he ever there?

Peyton Manning should gracefully bow out and retire soon.

[woodbuck27]

Then you have another argument:

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/14/peyton-manning-retire-injuries/

Wed Jan. 14, 2015

The Sun Hasn’t Set on Peyton Manning

I watched every drop-back he took this season, and I don't believe I was watching a quarterback who is washed-up. Why Peyton Manning shouldn't retire

" That is as long as he can answer one question affirmatively:

Can he get his legs healthy and keep them healthy for an entire season?

If he can’t be confident in that, then Manning should retire. Most quarterbacks, especially 39-year-old quarterbacks (which is what Manning would be next season), are done when their legs go. Manning’s legs went this season, and so did his effectiveness."

Comment woodbuck27:

I thought his legs looked just fine in his terrible performance Vs Indy. What I question is his arm strength and accuracy.